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Map Contest for a Tournament at instarcraft.de
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Hi guys!
Weve just started the SYS Cup on instarcraft.de. All of you, who speak german can read the News at www.instarcraft.de. For anyone else i'll try to write some information in english (my english isnt the best). The cup aims at playing new -non korean proleague- maps at a standard 1v1 Tournament. I already tried to reach panschk to post a news on this page, but i never get an answer :( So here are the infos about what u have to do:
-You schould create a standard melee maps for a 1v1 tournament(player count is up to you, but i think more than four isn't that good), which should be balanced and creative AND of course good looking (this should not be a problem for the most of u)
-Your Map should be send in until the 30th of November.
-Your map shouldn't be encrypted, as we might change a few things(ONLY a few), to create obs-versions or if there is a map-error during the cup.
-Your map shouldn't be released yet, as we want to present new and unseen maps.

So i hope that some of you are interested now. if u have any more questions or already finished a map, u can send me PM at instarcraft.de or send me a mail: lmcc@gmx.de

Greetz, the Chickenlor (and im sorry for my bad english)
modified by Chickenlord
2008, 10, 30 22:15
Panschk is not very active now, but the other admins can answer your questions. we'll be glad to hel you with the maps.

it'll be nice if you can paste in ths thread how is the competition going.
2008, 10, 30 22:21
How many maps will be used?

We'd love to participate, you can definitely expect atleast a few maps from us.
2008, 10, 30 22:32
Hi! Quite a fast answer ;-)
We've created a Jury, who tests and rates the maps and will finally make a mappack out of the best ones. I don't know how many maps we are going to choose, but i think it will be about five. Oh and the Jury is made up of Shadox, CHTopGun, Nurb and me (Chickenlord). Does this answer ur question, or do you need even more information (which i cant give right now :D)? Oh and u won'T get any prices,if u have the best map or are in the final mappack but ull get MASS FAME (or only fame) as we're going to do a live cast and of course present the maps ;-)

btw who is the other admin? i would like to ask him as we really need some maps. Without enough of them, the competition and the tournament don't make sense... So PLEASE send in some maps ;-)

Oh and i forgot something: You can send in as many maps as u want...
modified by Chickenlord
2008, 10, 30 22:36
There's a few admins, I'd say I'm the most active one though.

Will the jury process involve testing or just eye-balling?
2008, 10, 30 22:50
We will test it OF COURSE. As CHTopGun and me are old friends, we have enough time to test it. So not eye-balling only, because u know, this isn't effective enough. There some things u only notice, when u play the maps. We can't test all maps a hundred times, but i'm sure it lasts to recognize most problems etc.
Oh and yes, the other two will also test them ;)
modified by Chickenlord
2008, 10, 30 22:55
Alright sounds good. I'll post more if I can think of any other questions, but I think I've got the general idea of things for now :)
2008, 10, 30 23:18
Hm I want to make a newspost about this to encourage more activity, can I copy/paste your opening post?
2008, 10, 30 23:19
Sure u can! Or i can give u better version (better english):

Choose the one u want.

Show Your Skill Cup started! Round 1: Map Contest

The time has come, a new, great tournament is just about to start.
But before some nice matches can be fought, its up to the community to be creative.

The difference between normal tournaments and the SYS-Cup, is caused by a completely new mappack which will be designed by the community!
From 2.11.2008, you have 4 weeks to create and send us your self-made maps (deadline 30.11.2008, 23:59 CET).
So feel free to design one ore more maps which afterwards will be tested and voted by a jury.

To give you a little help, here are some points you should mind, when you design a map.

- The map should be balanced. If not, the jury may change some details in the map (but ONLY details, not the whole map)..
- It should be fun to play the map.
- The map has to be sent to us until 30.11.2008, 23:59 CET.
- The map should not be encrypted, so that we can change details or create observer-versions.
- Your map should not be known to somebody else. Why? The sense of this tournament is to play some completely new, unknown maps.


So if you now are motivated, send us your map (or some more) and we will choose the best maps which will be played in a great tournament, including a live cast and perhaps some well known european gamers which will play on your self-designed masterpiece!

Please upload your map with an hoster like Rapidshare, Megaupload, or sth and give us the link.
But please do not(!) post your map in a community board, you remember, it should be unknown, until the tournament starts.
The link to this file has to be sent in a PM to Chickenlord or CHTopGun on www.gosugamers.net or on http://starcraft2.ingame.de/index.php

We wish good luck to everybody and have fun watching the tournament (all further dates will be published).
modified by Chickenlord
2008, 10, 30 23:24
"Please upload your map with an hoster like Rapidshare, Megaupload, or sth and give us the link."
I don't really understand this part, you can't dl the map via bwmn?

"But please do not(!) post your map in a community board, you remember, it should be unknown, until the tournament starts."
Nobody plays on our maps, don't worry. ;)
community board = bwmn too?
2008, 10, 30 23:48
Okay, i'll try to explain. The idea is to start a tournament with, that none of the players could even know about. So before the tournemant has started you should not post it anywhere, even not her at BWMN BUT after we've started the cup, you may surely post it whereever u want.
2008, 10, 30 23:54
Ok guys that just means we'll have to pm eachother our map links to bounce ideas off eachother instead of posting it publicy, no big deal.
Chickenlord I don't mean to undermine what you're saying, I understand your point, it's just that mapping without feedback from other mappers is very difficult, this allows us to give you MUCH higher quality maps, and it'd only be among at most 5 of us, probably none of which who'd play in the tourney, so no harm done.
2008, 10, 31 00:22
i hardly believe your jury is a good jury at all. please proove me wrong before i start supporting your site. that might sound bad manner but im really not intending to :)

id love to enter your tournament but as i said i dont wanna be jacked of by a newby jury that doesnt know what bbs means or cant stack mutalisks or doesnt know how much hp a reaver has.
2008, 10, 31 00:22
also i dont know the german stuff so i really hope you will fix more in english :)
2008, 10, 31 00:23
marjoo, msn is better
2008, 10, 31 11:06
Well okay, did i get that right, you wanna know some facts about me and the rest of the jury, before you take part in the competition? If yes, i'll try to give as much facts as i can though i can't tell u enough about the others.
Ok, i'm playing Starcraft since about 9 years now, from which i played about 4 years online in multiplayer games. I'm not the best player, but im not a newb anymore. I've also spend some time on modding BW, sometimes i tried to make a new AI for Terran and Zerg CPU Players and i've also spend some time on creating maps and new unit graphics (which was all for myself, as it wasn't worth to release it :-D) And yes, i do know how to stack mutas. I'm not the best at, as my main race is toss and before it was terran for a long time, but i u just asked for muta stacking, not for good muta-micro ;) So i don't know more i could tell u, but it's just because i'm not sure, what else u could want to know. So here are some things about the others.
Shadox is the Main Mapsection admin at inStarcraft.de, i think i don't have to explain, why he's in the jury then ;)
CHTopGun is a friend of mine. Everytime i created a map on my own or we had a look at others maps, he said: „Oh have look at this...this is quite a good map for terrans, surely imba.“ or “This is an easy map for muta harrassment, the terran could never build this much turrets“ and things like this. So he see's things that could be imbalanced and therefore says what to test and what for sure has to be changed as it would give some races a huge advantage.
Nurb is a tournament admin, and i really talked to him for the first a week ago or something like this. But i asked him, if he's sure, that he'd be a good one for the jury and said „Yes“ and i believe him, as he alsways spends a lot of time on all tournaments and every other project he's involved in. But as i said, i can't tell u that much about Nurb.

So i hope this might help, if not, write again ;)
And btw i really don't know what bbs means. I had a look at every part of brain, but didn't find an answer. Im sure, this is the „“ for something i only know in german, so could write the whole name, so that i can say, if i know it or not!?
And which of the „german stuff“ do u mean? Didn't get that...
2008, 10, 31 14:13
i dont know how much hp a reaver has :(

80/100?

or 80/120? xD
2008, 10, 31 14:16
bbs is barracks barracks supply depot, a bo for tvz where terran makes 2 barracks (usually proxied) before making his depot. Fairly cheesy build, but it applies a lot of pressure to zergs who try to macro cheese.

Morrow I dunno how much hp a reaver has either tt, I just know that if I surround it with 12 mutas and 12 hydras it dies :D

Also Morrow, odds are high only people from bwm will make even a semi decent map, so most likely you're just competing with another bwm map, where any map from here could probably have a chance at winning. I'm sure the judges will do their best at picking a map fairly, and that we should contribute no matter what. Worst case scenario, and it's an admin-rigged competition, we still make and show off some decent maps which we can work on more and try using in something more prestegious. Best case scenario, one or more of our maps wins, is played in a tourney or whatever, recieves testing and fame, and then goes on to something more prestegious. It's a win-win situation no matter what lol.
2008, 10, 31 14:26
Ah okay, as i said, i know bbs, but only in german (as most strats). Thanks for ur support marjoo and as you said, we will do our best to pick to pick the maps fairly. And if we have ie two maps left at the end and don't know which to choose, we'll take both :-D
2008, 10, 31 14:35
Sounds good to me.
2008, 10, 31 15:18
Oh i don't know, if i said that. Anyone whos got some question or something like this, just contact me and i'll try to help you as much as i can ;)
2008, 11, 01 14:11
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