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Starparty
When we have decided, we should also make special mappackversions, and make sure trhat every map has no flaws, like missing descriptions or bad obsversions etc.

I can do it if some1 compiles the map for me first.
2005, 11, 01 17:55
Starparty
mappack*
2005, 11, 01 17:55
panschk
I prefer my mappack to SP's :D (who would have thought^^)
We need more opinions;)

Well someone will have to make the final version anyway, it will be his job to make all triggers work, descriptions etc..
2005, 11, 01 18:07
AiurZ
i can help with making obs maps and descriptions. observer maps take like 15 seconds to make
2005, 11, 01 20:53
flothefreak
I want to do the observer-maps of my maps on my own, but you'll be free to have a look if it's done correctly.

so, I am going to look for a proposal-list, too.
2005, 11, 01 21:06
flothefreak
I only focused on mappers I saw posting here actively with my own eyes
with the limit of 2maps per mapper:

starparty:
shangri-la
space pirates
(those two won by a hair against vega and arena, mostly because they are more innovative but still very playable and balanced. though, it was a hard and long fight of making a decision^^)

listoric:
temple of eden (very basic but great work. very well in balancing and design. sotospeak counterpart to SP-selection)
amistad (hard to decide between this and unholy gods II. but this one won because I don't know about T balancing on UG--- 3rd gas easy to gain)

flothefamousfreak:
origo hills (:love:)
evisceration (if too "strange": three spirits or escape routes)

spitfire:
goddess of day (not that beautiful in design imo as others, but great map)
(2nd: exorcist, but it's a bit "boring" somehow, esp. in the center. sorry.)

trcc:
(asphalum tor)
signal
kingdom of aragua (somehow it doesn't look appealing to me...though it's probably better than AT in a neutral view)

summersky:
warrior of ice (i just like this map. it's also very creative)
ode to the sun

yenku:
solar disarray. but the question is if he represents BWMN when having only 1 map there.

boongee:
nightlight. though I have to admit, I wouldn't mention it if it wouldn't have been blizzcon map.

travin:
kaiber
the bad omen

xuul:
regnum noctis
temple of twilight

noname:
carribean dreams
go away

cyanides:
droid
fishtail (would be a great airmap. though there should be given credit to FZ in map description if we publish this map)

[lgi: cosma- but I don't consider me neutral of judging here because I influenced this map to a high degree]

panschk:
colonization
tar river

so, I hope I didn't forget anyone
I took my inspiration from the auhtor already posted without thinking of them by myself
if the mappack is selected by author's work, I don't have anything against having MOTWs in it. MOTW has it's own publication platform, so I hesitated to take them, but this is about mappers representing this page. so I didn't drop MOTW (well, they are surely part of the best maps of an author^^)
2005, 11, 01 22:22
Starparty
Regnum noctis is not a balanced map
fishtail doesnt seem fun
Solar dissaray dissapointed me major
tar river hasnt been tested at all
2005, 11, 01 22:51
flothefreak
I did go for the best two maps of each, and i think tar river is under panschk most interesting ones.
fishtail is a good looking FZ-clone. this kind/aspect should also be in a BWMN pack
solar disarray was just to mention it.
regnum noctis is a very appealing map. dunno about balance, never played it. but well, you already complained about RN balance earlier.
2005, 11, 01 22:57
Starparty
the rest of them is almost like my choises, so i guess were onthe same level :7
2005, 11, 01 22:58
flothefreak
soul twins, remember?
:P
2005, 11, 01 23:19
panschk
SP, regnum is nowhere worse than nostalgia or _Luna_ (not saying luna is balanced, but players still like it). So really, we terrans should be able to accept a map like regnum noctis in a big MP, it's not like terran has no chance, they just don't get any stuff to help them.

I don't think I'd be a good idea to have 2 maps for everyone. For example for me, maximum 1 maps in this mappack is ok (I think I could have more in a mappack for innovative maps)
2005, 11, 02 00:07
flothefreak
well, you should definetly be part of a BWMN-mappack :P
2005, 11, 02 13:00
flothefreak
ah, and I just made 2 suggestions per mapper. it's also possible to kick one or both of a mapper if it's not the needed level to represent our skills.
2005, 11, 02 13:01
Listoric
I'll make my sugguestion later.
2005, 11, 03 12:05
XuuL
sth like 2 weeks ago i took a look over all maps being in this DB and here is the list of my personal TOP 25:

2 player maps:
- go away3
- ebullition
- haerospace
- highway star
- interception
- interstate 30
- manhattan project
- mudbowl
- ode to the sun
- temple of twilight

4 player maps:
- arena
- aztec
- contact
- crusader
- desert lies
- ecuadorsal
- ethereal palace
- gurwaii
- kingdom of aragua
- regnum noctis
- sha-ka ree
- sun fall
- the lost halo

6 player map:
- mark of the beast

first i took sth like the best 50 (regarding all mappers are represented) and afterwards i just took the ones i rly like most (disregarding the amount of maps per mapper)

of corz some new nice maps are missing since this election is 2,3 weeks old
2005, 11, 03 21:56
panschk
As soon as Listoric hast posted his list, I start to count and make the final list, ok?
2005, 11, 03 23:57
Listoric
Citadel of Adun
Kingdom of Aragua
Arena
Shangri-La
Temple of Eden
Amistad
Goddess of Day
origo hills
colonization
signal
innocence faded
dirz

still, there are some other good maps that may be even a better choice somehow, and i think most mappers could/should be represented too, but i'm tired right now, and i can't think of more _great_ maps immediately. ^^ think our sugguestions are quite the same, and almost all sugguested maps are great anyhow.

I'll keep on looking through the DB, maybe a great map is hidden under our eyes ^^ who knows.
2005, 11, 04 01:17
flothefreak
well, now it's about how exactly the pack is structured...the 2 best maps of each active mapper? with the option of excluding the 2nd if it doesn't fit the level?
this is how I understood it...

if then, we should somehow make clear that it is based on mappers...like adding a .txt-file, into which every author can post a short text on his map(s). like some kind of readme, where you mention things that players should now. for example, gas at 3rd expo decreased to 500, entrance 1rax safe/not safe, or just a comment on the concept of the map. those statements of all authors are then collected in the txt-file, which really would make the author-selection clear.
should be called "mapcomments.txt" or something else
2005, 11, 04 10:46
panschk
I just counted the votes yet:


  • Starparty:
    Shangri-La __2__ !3! ~4~
    Space Pirates __2__
    Arena __2__ !3!
    the lost halo
    Ebulition
    interception

  • Spitfire:
    Goddess of day __2__ !3! ~4~
    Exorcist
    sun fall

  • trcc:
    Kingdom of aragua __2__ !3! ~4~ %5%
    Signal __2__ !3! ~4~
    asphalum thor
    haerospace
    ecuadorsal
    gurwaii

  • flothefreak
    Origo Hills __2__ !3!
    Evisceration __2__

  • Boongee:
    Nightlight __2__
    Diamond Valley

  • Travin
    Crusader __2__
    Kaiber __2__
    the bad omen
    contact
    CoA
    dirz

  • Panschk
    Colonization __2__ !3!
    tar river

  • XuuL:
    regnum noctis __2__ !3!
    Dawn of Epsilon
    ToT __2__
    aztec
    sha-ka-ree

  • noname
    carribean dreams
    go away __2__

  • Summersky:
    Innocence faded __2__
    Ode to the Sun __2__ !3!
    Warrior of Ice

  • Listoric:
    Temple of Eden __2__ !3! ~4~
    Amistad __2__ !3!
    Mudbowl
    desert lies

  • Hans-Titan:
    River of Gods
  • Bill307:
    Counterpoint
    highway star
    interstate30

  • Antares:
    Scorpion Desert

  • Yenku
    Solar Dissarray

  • Cyanides:
    Fish tail
    fishtail

  • MuShu:
    Manhatten Project

  • paetza:
    etheral palace

  • snooky:
    Mark of the beast
  • 2005, 11, 04 13:09
    panschk
    All maps with at least 3 votes get in automatically, unless there are more than two by one author:

    Shangri La
    Arena
    Kingdom of Aragua
    Signal
    Goddess of Day
    Origo Hills
    Colonization
    Ode to the sun
    Regnum Noctis
    Temple of Eden
    Amistad

    That's already 12 maps. We don't need to talk about Listoric, trcc, SP, panschk maps anymore ;)

    We still need maps from:
    - Travin
    - Bill (I would prefer counterpoint or some of his other new ones, the older ones were already wgt maps so long ago and did not really impress me)
    - boongee (probably nightlight)
    - noname (carriben dreams^^)
    aiurz, mushu, yenku, antares, hans-titan, LGI, snooky, cyanides are all a possibility. Think about it

    I'm actually not into putting a secound map from XuuL, flo, boongee, summersky in it. Maybe a secound for spitfire.
    2005, 11, 04 13:21
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