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2013, 07, 20 01:10
Okay, so here is another update..

1v1 Only
(2)Bloody Ridge
(2)Blue Storm
(2)Destination
(2)Heartbreak Ridge
(2)Match Point
(2)Overwatch
(2)Polaris Rhapsody
(2)Resonance II
(3)Aztec
(3)Demonio Azul
(3)Neo Medusa
(3)Outsider
(3)Pathfinder
(3)Tau Cross
[EMPTY]
[EMPTY]

1v1 and 2v2
(4)Andromeda
(4)Circuit Breaker
(4)ColosseumII
(4)Dante\'s Peak
(4)Feel My Love
(4)Fighting Spirit
(4)Gemlong
(4)Gladiator
(4)Grandline
(4)La Mancha
(4)Neo Wind and Cloud
(4)Sniper Ridge
(4)Star Pride
(4)Vin
[EMPTY]
[EMPTY]

2v2 Only
(4)Ally Me
(5)Megrez
(6)Sixth Sense
(6)Paradigm
(7)Sympathia
(8)Times of Splendor
(8)Symbolic
[EMPTY]


Removed maps from last one -
Alternative-2tvt,29zvz,6pvp
Chain Reaction-7terran games out of 67
Electric Circuit-Z favored heavily all matchups
Jade-Little Zerg matchups, compared to +10 of others

Also maps of concern :
Pathfinder
Aztec



So right now sitting at
2 1v1 map
2 1v1+2v2 map
1 2v2 map

Possible map additions :
(2)Benzene
(4)ChemLab
(5)Quintessence
(5)???
And some other maps..

Please give me your thoughts.
modified by CrystalDrag
2013, 09, 01 05:17
I don't like Benzene. Not sure why, I guess the expansion layout is just awfully linear and boring, and every game I have ever watched on it felt numbingly insipid for some reason...

Neo Jade is one of the most frequently used maps at the moment, may be because it is also one of the newest ones, but I don't think you should remove it right now.

I am not sure, whether ChemLab is actually balanced enough.
Maybe Shadowplay and/or Roadkill (the latter especially with Jade not in, and I also cannot see Icarus anywhere).
And if you really feel like going crazy, I\'d be going for {(3)Incidence, (4)Atalantis, (2)Tar Basin}. Each one of them would defintely enrich the map pack in one way or another.

What about (3)Triathlon?

What's the problem with Circuit Breaker? What statistics are you referring to? Depending to TLPD, it's one of the most balanced maps ever, in all aspects, with a god number of games on it for every matchup.
What am I talking about, you were talking about about Chain Reaction...

(4)Electric Circuit may be not 100% balanced, but it's not terrible and it's a very nice map ;\

(5)Quintessence Has yet a long way to go. It would probably best fit in the 1v1 & 2v2 category, I conceived it as a melee map, essentially it's Gaema Gowon, just with an additional spawn and a middle expansion, and distances should be alright to make it feasible for a 1v1.

Have you considered (4)TERU?

What about (2)Kingdom of Clouds? It got a lot of positive feedback on TL.

But generally I'd be cautious with adding too many new maps at once - at least for 1v1, teamplay maps are scarce, so that is a whole different story - and even more with removing any of the newer kespa maps, at least the regularly played ones like Jade or Electric Circuit ((3)Outlier is of course a different story). Call me pessimistic, but for StarServer to take off, people need to be able to play the maps they are accustomed to. Better safe then sorry. Even if you menage to pick better balanced new maps, convincing the general superstitious public of that is a whole other story.

I would try to talk to some top level foreign players and get their opinion on map balance.

Other than that, doing small balancing updates for existing korean maps is probably a good way to go (small stuff like main mineral balancing for Jade or Wind&Cloud, or even your update of Match Point). However, I am not sure that we still enough to really justify such changes in the eyes of most players, so I'd be cautious with that, too.
modified by Freakling
2013, 09, 01 11:05
The new maps for 1v1...
Overwatch
ResonanceII
Demonio Azul

Feel My Love
Gemlong
StarPride
Vin

and if there are, say about two in each seasom (8 maps in a season, 4 seasons with32 1v1 maps) that wouldn't overload too much?..
Vin I feel will replace python.

I remove Feel My Love in exchange for Roadkill...? Or Jade?
I'll re-add Circuit Breaker and Electric circuit. Though I made do an entire remake of electric circuit possibly to correct the very small bases of the south..

........

for 1v1, I will add... Kingdom of Clouds (will lure all the sc2 players ;p)
And Triathon.

..........

and for the final 2v2... That willremain to be seen?
2013, 09, 01 17:47
I guess this is the point where you need to explain the whole concept to me (i.e. what is a season, or how long etc.)
2013, 09, 01 20:19
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