broodwarmaps.net banner

BWMN Time
04/08/2020
17:54
News
new account
list users
Login:
name:
:PW.:
Replays
Map DB
ICCup
Map Access
New map
Edit map
 


Back to "beta" maps.   Show all maps.
Last update for (4)Dies Irę_0.99 : 2020, 03, 06 02:22
mapIDMapname (comments)map sizeAuthorRatingTypeplay type
4716 (4)Dies Irę_0.99 128*128Freakling0.7betaground

The map has been rated 34 times and got a total of 23 points
<<>>
Download
Melee


You can rate the map here. Chose a grade between 10 (best) and 0 (worst).
Comments:   GMCS (0 elements)


Freakling
No one comenting? Well, I guess I'll just go ahead and post my own thoughts so far on this one:

It's obivously a new implementation of the Lucid Dream natural layout.

I felt that axial symmetry was better suited for this kind of natural, to avoid rotaional imbalance (although just amking it rotational and make the front mineral only defend the main ramp would be another variation, but, I think, the more boring one).

The middle is designed to increase nat to nat distance by having some kind of obstacle between the ramps, althought I think that needs to be forther improved.

However, no matter what, 9-pools and other early agression will be strong an prevalent, so I made the main ramps wallable with only one rax and a depot and the marines spawning inside the main for all positions. Not sure if keeping the vision blockers is a good idea, but either way the main ramps are more or less placeholers for now, they definitely need some overhaul, maybe I will makke them curved or something. I defnitely want to keep them wide, thought, to allow easy macro and prevent easy contains on the ramp.
The sunken colonies only spread creep if there is a hatch in the main, obviously.

I also added muta clifss behind the naturals, but with the short air distances and the need to also turret up at the main choke I think mutas could actually be too strong right now.

The 6 o'clock expo is obviously still missing a geyser and two mineral patches, but those will be added when I resacale it to 128x128 (it's 128x126 "working size" right now).

So as far as my further planning goes:

- make the 3/9 3rds high ground with narrow ramps, mabe add some vision blocking stuff or ovi cliffs.
- Work on the middle to make rush distances as long as possible
- maybe add some curveiness to the long middle and main ramps, because it looks a bit bland at the moment
- make the mains bigger, because they defintely could be
- maybe reduce the muta cliffs behind the nats and move them closer to the corners, which would also help with main space
- move the main ramps further north/south to improve rush distances. I don't want the mineral only to act as a second nat, but there is enought free space there to do this. This will also help increasing main space and will hopefully also help pathfinding (currently it's quite easy to get stuck behind the mineral only, unfortunately)
- I think I will add a vision blocker wall with enough space to build a spotting pylon/depot behind the mineral only and add enough unbuildable ground that you cannot take it from the inside efficiently. Or would it be better to allow players to go for the safe option and add add vivion blockers directly below the minerals, so it's not as easy to snipe workers from the outside? Not sure yet.

Overall scout/rush paths should go to the middle (if you send them directly to another main).
traceurling
Honestly my eyes just can't distinguish anything on ash terrIn
sTY_leZerG-eX
Nice, and very interesting.
not your classic type of map :) , that cool.
Why did u choose this type of symmetry?
NegativeZero
Seems like vertical spawns have both a shorter direct distance between the main entrances and a less impeded path through the center, so rush distances for these spawns will be especially short. Good job blocking the direct path between horizontal spawns though.
Freakling
Except for some fine tuning I consider this the final layout, so now would be a good time to point out your thoughts, before I start decorating it.
CrystalDrag
There is not much to comment on. Except Red and Teal appears to have a little more space outside of the main ramp. May just be me though.
CardinalAllin
Could make the vertical paths from the middle to the 12 and 6 as large as possible, ie fill in the clutter with walkable high ground?
Freakling
Would probably only help terran siege the low ground...
CardinalAllin
Nice ramps and stuff!
Good choice to add small ramps at 12 and 6.
Freakling
They've always been there. Otherwise the whole mineral only/backdoor thingy would be mostly inaccessible.
CardinalAllin
Ah yes, my mistake.
Freakling
Version 0.99 for upcoming BWCL KOK tournament
  • Pushed naturals to the cporners to gain more space
  • Reshaped mains to make building and defending the choke a bit easier
  • Moved vision blockers away from main chokes to form a more forward ark now
  • General rebalancing and fixing of pathing
tktkvroom
cool concept!
whats the point of the tree sprites?
Freakling
Vision blockers. The sprites are just to make them obvious to the players (SC2-style).
tktkvroom
oh thats cool!!
Replays



Upload replay for this map
Add your comment:


Because of heavy spam on the map comments, it is needed to be logged in to post. We are sorry that this has to be done because nothing else stops spam bots
random map
  (4)Cryptodome
Newest updates:
  (2)Road Rash 0.91
  (2) Hell March
  (4) Black Velvet
  (2) Eternal Reign..
  (2)Interstate
  (2)Bone Valley
  (4)Circle of Fire
  (2)Adrenaline
  (4)Wu-Tang
  (2)MagmaFlow
MOTM
  • month 1:
      (2)Clown
  • MOTW
  • week 2020.01:
      (2)WindBreak Ridge 1.05
  • Main Forum
  • Edito..(Freakling)
  • P Buf..(fatalfury2)
  • BWMN ..(JungleTerr)
  • Ho to..(RonLaforge)
  • Feedback
  • This s..(triller1)
  • Rotati..(triller1)
  • Off Topic
  • Vetera..(ProTosS4Ev)
  • What's..(triller1)
  • Questi..(triller1)
  • Starcraft 2
  • announ..(triller1)
  • STARCR..(triller1)
  • Search Forum
    Articles:
     
  • How to make larvae spawn at the bottom right corner  
  • Worker pathing guide - How to debug and balance resour  
  • An elegant way of dealing with cliff asymmetry
  • Competition:
     
  • Innovative Naturals Competition  
  • Tourney Map Pack Aspirant Suggestions  
  • Maps That Need A Remake