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LGI said:

I haven't read any discussion about this in ICCUP or any other place except in BWMN. I am sure Nightmarjoo isn't the only person with no brain/taste/experience in mapping. Bla-bla-bla...

FROM THE ENTIRE BWMN MAP DB, FROM ALL THOSE EXPERIENCE MAPPERS HERE, FROM ALL THOSE NEW FRESH IDEAS, NOT TO MENTION WE ARE YEAR 2008, (4)Faoi IS AN ICCUP MAP!

I have a question to Nightmarjoo.

Do you really think you deserve this? From all those mappers here, who are way better then you? You couldn't even won vs Lancet in KotH! What did you do to BWMN to think you deserve this? Writing poems and novels in most of the map threats with bla-bla-bla theory crafting shits, which most of them weren't even right!

In mapping, always trying to copy others ideas, but making them crappy, because your mapping skill level is low, especially in design!

Anyway, what ever i say now about Nightmarjoo isn't important. PEOPLE WHO SHOULD GIVE THEIR VOTE, already know enough about Nightmarjoo.

I WANT ALL ADMINS, EX ADMINS, OLD SCHOOL MAPPERS, EXPERIENCE MAPPERS AND EVERY THINKING CREATURE HERE WITH BRAINS WHO KNOW THE HISTORY OF BWMN, AND WHO ARE HERE LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW ALL TO TAKE A SOBER VIEW OF THINGS AROUND HERE!!!

NIGHTMARJOO, HAS DONE A LOT OF SHITS IN THIS SITE. IT'S TIME TO END!
2008, 03, 04 13:29
You are overacting a (lil) bit xD
Sure Nightmarjoo isn't by far the best mapper here, but it's Yellow-Ant fault. He choosed the map. I showed him every good map made in 2008 and he said simply "no" to all of them.
Nightmarjoo always talk so much and does theorycrafting³ and of course he talk shit too, but he is helping new members and some of the oldschool guys too, while making a map better.


NIGHTMARJOO, HAS DONE A LOT OF SHITS IN THIS SITE. IT'S TIME TO END!

What do you wanna do ? xD
2008, 03, 04 14:13
It's really not Nightmarjoo's decision. Yellow-Ant said "that one", and there you go, ICCUP map. :/

It's like getting worked up over rain deciding to fall on your neighbour's lawn, rather then your own. It's practically arbitrary, neither of the two lawns had a choice.
2008, 03, 04 16:03
1) Just watched a replay on it. I don't consider myself a mapping expert, but I don't see what's wrong with it. Looks like a pretty good map to me.
2) Nightmarjoo did a lot of good things for this site. And he never made such horrible haterade-powered posts like this one as far as I remember.
3) If I understand the map-picking-process right, Yellow-Ant just picked the map anyway, not Nightmarjoo. So why hate him for it?
4) Stop acting like a child LGI. And btw, why didn't you post it yourself, but let Starparty do the post?
5) Why do you hate like that? I remember back in the days we were all happy when someone had some success with his maps. Congratulations to Nightmarjoo.
6) I just removed LGI's admin power.
7) I don't know who was the first to step on someone else's foot, but seriously, GROW UP!

2008, 03, 04 16:47
4) I'm pretty sure LGI posted it, and starparty removed it as a newspost and put it in the forum.
2008, 03, 04 16:49
makes sense;)
2008, 03, 04 16:54
ok i understand LGI a little bit but this is ridiculous.
2008, 03, 04 16:57
Ya, it might very well be that there are much better maps in our DB than faoi (no offense, Nightmarjoo). It is a decent map, but nothing special - it reminds me of Namja Ijagi, Nazca, Longinus and LT.

But it isn't NM who pics the ICC maps. It is ok for NM to promote his own maps, but I am sure he didn't only show Yello his own maps, but also others.
2008, 03, 04 17:21
yellowant is iccup admin i know, he is the chooser of iccup map pack?, isnt it very wrong if only 1 person chooses map?, maybe it would be better if all of iccup votes for like 10 different maps of the bests... imo
2008, 03, 04 17:27
MorroW tell this the iccup admins, not us :) We can't do much.
2008, 03, 04 17:49
Everyone knows that Nightmarjoo is not my favorite person and all of you know about the fights we have had. But Nightmarjoo does contribute to this web-site and makes comments and performs his admin duties which, sad to say, many others do not. LGI obviously has had some tough frictions with Nightmarjoo in the past and I know Nightmarjoo is not easy to get along with. But calling for his removal from here is an overreaction especially when LGI, apart from a few comments here and there, was all but dormant as an admin at this site.

Having said that I think it is also an overreaction by panschk to remove LGI's admin powers without giving him a chance to state his case to him personally. Consider also that LGI is a very good mapper that has won several MOTM. This is no way to treat him. If panschk does not keep up with the day to day of this site as much as he used to then he HAS the moral obligation to at least hear LGI's part of the story before taking such a harsh action, even Gods have their responsabilities.

Panschk sorry, but I strongly disagree with what you did.

And please note what LGI wrote above regarding me "You couldn't even won vs Lancet in KotH!". You see, he clearly has me in low regard (although a notch or two above Nightmarjoo)! I am not writting this out of favoritism for LGI, I am writting this on principle.

As to the ICCUP, Nightmarjoo did proceed to show some maps to yello-ant without our input but then he invited people here in a post to post maps that they thought were good enough to show to him, so he did consult with us. Yellow-ant just happened to like Faoi and that is his prerrogative and there is nothing we can do about it and hey, look at the bright side, one of OUR maps is there. It may not be the best but is one of OUR's. That should be a cause for celebration!

: ^ )

modified by Lancet
2008, 03, 04 19:19
If LGI indeed posted it as a news, removing his Admin rights seems pretty ok to me. Flaming someone in a news is absolutely NOT OK.

modified by spinesheath
2008, 03, 04 20:04
LOL WHATS THIS? THIS IS VERY FUNNY TO ME XD
nightmarjoo and me showed him lots of maps for these new season, he lots of good maps but chosed faoi okay?

remember that radix have a very bad quality map inside iccup. and protoss4ever have a normal with a 540 times seen concept.

nightmarjoo, you should tell them the truth about faoi. remember that YOUR map couldn't even win vs lancet at king of the hill xD

i already told you i don't care if you write nightmarjoo & Testbug at author maps xD
it's just 1 person choses wich maps are in and wich maps are not at iccup okay?
Nightmarjoo did nothing!

He already sayd it is a bad map, but since it is inside iccup. he'll edit the concept and make a balance map for the iccup edit wich will include about 7 new korean maps.

this post should me deleted. and i also think
4)LGI posted it, and starparty removed it as a newspost and put it in the forum.

that's why it sayd "original post was this" and links to here.
please, end the discussion u.u

LGI you want your map at iccup? you have to concatc me LOL xD
2008, 03, 04 20:43
yello-ant came to me. Not even for bwm maps, he had a question about troy and demon's forest and some other iccup stuff, and while talking to him I brought up adding bwm maps to him. I don't think he originally wanted to add maps after calypso, survivor, and shine all played terribly (survivor was rush map, shine had long distances and players cried about the double entrance to nat (-.-), and calypso was just bad rofl). I showed him Shakras first, thinking it had the best chance of getting in the pack, and he said no to it. So I showed him Faoi, which I had tested previously and personally found it to play nicely, so I thought yello-ant might like it too. He did.

What testbug is talking about "remember that YOUR map couldn't even win vs lancet..." is that supposedly, testbug chose (I didn't ask him to) to remake from scratch the map Faoi. I don't know why he did this, because besides making the ramps in the middle larger, editing the nat cliffs, and the main's edges nothing besides decoration was different. Then when I started to test the new map, I edited it, and then further edited it (with testbug's consultance, and some editing by testbug in some places) through talking to yello-ant. And the last dozen or so changes have been made outside of testbug's influence. We both put a lot into the map, hence it is by Nightmarjoo and Testbug.

As for other maps, I showed yello-ant every single map you guys asked me to (I made a thread just for that purpose), excluding LGI's entheogenic, which I don't currently have on my computer, and it's not my fault LGI himself doesn't have the map anymore. I hope this whole thing isn't because I didn't show yello-ant entheogenic -.-
2008, 03, 04 20:58
LOL nightmarjo i was jokinggggggggggggg
2008, 03, 05 01:39
Just out of curiosity, did you show him Shrine of Kelehmar? If you didn't it's OK, I was not planning to flame you or anything if you didn't, I just wanted to know what he thought if you did show it to him.
2008, 03, 05 01:49
I didn't show it to him, no one asked in thread, sorry.
2008, 03, 05 04:47
and guys, dont take KotH dead serious... I thought that one was obvious from the start.
2008, 03, 05 12:56
lol what? I thought I was competing for the most pretegious competition on bwm!
2008, 03, 05 16:33
The most pretegios, yeah. But nothing else.
2008, 03, 05 18:06
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i love you nightmarjooo xD
2008, 03, 05 20:28
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