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panschk
In the map comments?
2005, 09, 02 16:27
Listoric
yes. On top of the map comments is every info of the map listed and it would be great if you could use that somehow as well.

btw, i like it that when i click on Starparty & Hefty i.e. that every map appears with Starparty & SOMEONE, thats really cool! :)
2005, 09, 03 08:35
Listoric
League

Why are the leagues linked like that ? C A B ? That should be redone because now it looks unprofessional.

And, in the X vs Y table, the first row is wrong, you changed ----- and IPS, just take a look, can't describe it any better.
2005, 09, 03 15:02
panschk
It's not my fault if clans put "-" as their clantag -_-;

I will change the way the tables are ordered with the next update. It's one of those unexplainable mistakes T_T
2005, 09, 03 16:03
Listoric
I read trough html today and with the help of my mate we managed to teach me html today, so now i feel way more comfortable helping you with the design and doing stuff myself. I won't stop learning and i will stick to html/css/php as good as possible to help you as much as i wish to do. Just wanted to say that i keep on learning and did some nice steps today.

btw, you don't know why the competitions are empty? And why are the leagues listed C B A ? not A B C ? Has this a particular meaning? Strange days :)
2005, 09, 04 05:15
Listoric
"Waiter, the bill please!"

If the waiter is a guy who always creates maps and post them here (in an unknown feature), he will deserve the guy a different bill...

What kind of bill?

Well, i had an idea, nothing really new, but an idea. Some complain about the rating system ever and ever again. So i thought about it, and came to an idea how to rate a map - with a bill!

The system is easy, there are 10 points to give:

B - Balance - 3 points - XXX
I - Ideas__ - 3 points - XXX
L - Look___ - 3 points - XXX
L - LikeIt? - 1 point_ - X

Balance - Is the map balanced? Is every matchup balanced?
Ideas - Are there any new ideas ore unuusual things which make the map unique? Is everything implented well, without flaws?
Look - What does the map look like? Standard or outstanding?
LikeIt? - The "Bonus", do you like the map as it is now? Do you think "Hey, the matchups are fucked up but the overall idea is very intersting, i like it till now" or do you think "ok, well done, nice airmap, i hate airmaps, not my thing"

The idea is simple: Everyone rates his map at the bottom of his comment (if he wishes to do so) with this system.

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Maybe we could implement something like that instead of the rating system which is still online and abused or ignored somehow.

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My questions:

Is this a good idea at all?
Will you ever change the rating system?
Does someone like it?

and if you like it...
is it possible to implement something like a dropdown menu, with [balance] [idea] and so on, and give out pictures with the result?

Like if you click on balance 3 - idea 3 - look 1 - likeit? 0 - the system checks that and loads the picture already premade called bill_3310.jpg below the comment?

What about that?
2005, 09, 05 04:51
Listoric
sometimes i feel like i'm the only one in this forum here :`(

btw, you don't get a message when you edit a newspost, just a blank part.
2005, 09, 05 13:34
Starparty
too complicated system. just way too complicated.
2005, 09, 05 14:03
Listoric
hmm... true ^^ As said, and seen, this idea was a sleepless night idea, good to have people around saying that something is bullshit :)

btw, after i edited the newspost about 8 times, i thought about having a preview button maybe? to see what it would look like before you post it?
2005, 09, 05 14:12
Starparty
thats also just unnececary since its only go back and rewrite. functions that wont be used are pointless :(
2005, 09, 06 10:01
panschk
Imo this balance/ideas/look system is a good way to make a review when commenting on a map. Implemented as a rating system, it would be abused just as much as the old one.

Right now I'm not motivated to spend much time on improving the page anymore, when you see how the league thing worked out (3 of 14 clans did show up...), you really wonder why you do this and for who...
2005, 09, 06 11:18
Starparty
Think about having atleast 3 of 5 blizzcon winners instead.
2005, 09, 06 12:04
Listoric
Well, i know that i stick my effort into this page because i really think it has a big potential, and i haven't seen so much great maps ever on a bw page, so i think we should stick to that, and improve everything we can do. As long as we keep on working, users will do this as well. Remember the 1on1 tourney, it was very cool, even if it was a bit fucked up. but we organized it better than the 2on2 league i think.
the league idea maybe was a bit to early and to much for now.

Maybe we should first keep on cooperating with other big sites, maybe bw.de as well with a small tourney somehow. We can talk about that if the site is updated in design and content. I think that's what needs to be done first.

There are SO many good sugguestions in the feedback forum that should be included or changed. Anyway, don't give up panschk, i will continue lerning html css and stuff and i'm really working on ways to help you with this page.
2005, 09, 06 15:54
Listoric
btw, after BW.de want's to update their whole mapdatabase somehow, maybe we could arrange to simply BE the database for them. We would have to upload ums maps as well and something more, but i think that may be a good idea somehow. Anyway, we should talk about that later as stated above.
2005, 09, 06 16:07
panschk
haschischtasche already contacted me about it. I don't really want to do that.
1) I dislike bw.de, because it is so slow
2) Most bw.de users suck
3) And most important, the transfer seems pretty undoable to me. Let alone the language barrier :[
2005, 09, 06 23:25
Listoric
What do you mean by "it is so slow"? The site or what?
bw.de users suck, yes maybe, but that is not our problem, we would only be here for their mapdatabase and still do our job as we do it now, so they had to accept our rules, and the language barrier as well. i won't have to post in german here, that really suxx ass, so if we do that, than only with our rules. I thought more about something like "if you want to download mapfiles, go to our partnerpage bwmn, the best page in the universe"

anyway, traffic might be a problem then, that's true, how is it now?

well, at least we could ask if we can put our banner on some known pages or something. as said, i will do any graphics i can think of. I'm at home by this friday and will work on everything as soon as possible. i really like the idea of this page and think that we could be really big as the system is great and the partaking mappers know what they are doing and all seem to be willing to learn. Thats a good base for running a page like this. Who know, maybe we're the biggest european mappage someday. ;)
2005, 09, 07 01:59
Listoric
could you add a hidden counter somewhere? it just would be really interesting to see how many people come here every day. only make it hidden (admin area?), i really dislike counters on pages normally.
2005, 09, 07 02:18
panschk
I could do that, but we need to know how we want it to work. For example there could be one in the header for every klick, or it could be only on the index page, so that only a visit to the mainpage would be counted.

Anyway, some statistics the webhost recorded:
panschk.de: (Traffic in MB)
January2005: 6
Feb: 13
March: 11
April: 60
May: 37
June: 626
July: 1517
August: 3300
September (Today is 7.): 490

It's pretty obvious when I started the mappage ;)

HTTP-Hits for broodwarmaps.net:
July: 3641
August: 3754
September: 630

That's about a hundred "hits" a day. Now I don't know what's exactly a "HTTP-hit", but 100 visits on www.broodwarmaps.net (Not including any clicks on panschk.de/mappage afterwards) looks like a lot to me.
2005, 09, 07 10:43
Listoric
From the "To do" Article comments:

GORywwyN
How about you include an < a href = "javascript:window.alert('comment')" > in the GMCS ? That way you would not receive a "wrong protocol" notice when clicking on a button.
Besides, you do not necessarly need an (dunno?!?!)-tag to use the title-attribute, since title is a universal attribute and can be used in any tag you want to. (Whether the browser will display it properly is an entirely different question, of course...)

Listoric
Yes, someone already mentioned that, good that you had the same idea. I also would recommend that if you click on the picture, a small 200x200 window opens with the comment in it. Can you do this panschk?
2005, 09, 08 01:22
panschk
Yes, that could be done. But the text would not really be readable in FF without clicking anymore.
2005, 09, 08 09:42
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