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Last update for (2)Neighborly 1.1 : 2006, 02, 20 07:39
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954 (2)Neighborly 1.1 96*128STIMEY D OKGM FISH (PIMPED)4.7final

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sp
can i pimp this?
STIMEY D OKGM FISH
hell yeah, that wuold be perfect
Starparty
* * * YOUR MAP HAS BEEN PIMPED * * *
modified by Starparty
flothefreak
p>z
t>p
t>z

reason: probetrick and then cannons/barrack+rine behind the minwall

8[
Starparty
haha sunken trick > cannon trick, its proven :)
flothefreak
sunken trick?
Starparty
check reps ;)
flothefreak
ok :o
obviously it's NOT zerg having no chance, i really did not expect this. practice-craft>theorycraft.

but I am still not convinced that this should be 100% balanced :P
gimme some 100 reps and I judge then^^
Starparty
working on it
Starparty
fixed minerals so the game actually can last longer than 5 min
STIMEY D OKGM FISH
whatever u can defend all those cheeses, u didnt hve to remove that.
STIMEY D OKGM FISH
lol pimped!!!!!!!!
STIMEY D OKGM FISH
i'm kind of worried about low ground pushing into the mains
STIMEY D OKGM FISH
the left side looks really really T>P to me. and they can shoot the mains from there, build turrets on the sides. troubling

the map has inherent advantages for zerg (close spots, lord scouting 100% fast and complete), easy natural, long distances. that's why i put the mains at 9 minerals, as this helps P>Z and T>Z. u changed everything back to 8.

i really like it a lot, u made a great map starparty, but the right side was supposed to be almost too t>p already, the left side you added is even more t>p and now it hits the mains
Starparty
dont be :P its too much trouble to defend against the early cheeses that you wont get a safe tech to puch effectivelly
STIMEY D OKGM FISH
so it might be better if you remove the ramps to the lower ground and change the amounts of minerals to disfavor Z (afaik, 9 patch mains)
STIMEY D OKGM FISH
i watched your reps and the cheese is nothing, listoric (no offense) really is playing badly those games
Listoric
Starparty
STIMEY D OKGM FISH
i'm serious, i think u could potentially balance the races on the map, the cheeses aren't worth attempting the only effect is that you have to do a different build to defend the cheese. terran loses an scv early to scout for the cheese (send it in there) and proceed with a raxs build. land the raxs build a bunker without range it can still hit everything on the side of the minerals (without reaching workers), no range required, all cheese stopped (mutually by defense).

but t>>p on this map i think because the left side is just free win, T can already port on this map and push from the right side into the main (right side is a little narrow too).

toss can't fast expo because they need to build a photon in their minerals. so toss are doubly screwed. the only thing going for them is that it's a land map so terran has to face high ground vs high ground at his choke, goons can hit low ground too but once the game gets macroing T army becomes invincible, the only real flaw
STIMEY D OKGM FISH
also in the bottom base there's a piece of snow i cant build on thats relly annoying >_<
flothefreak
LOL those pics
i'm rolling on the floor

STIMEY D OKGM FISH
the top base mines really really fucked upedly too, probably the worst prob.
Starparty
feel free to do whatever you want. its still your map/password
STIMEY D OKGM FISH
u wouldnt mind? it would no longer be pimped then ;(
STIMEY D OKGM FISH
Did you lock it or something? i'm getting weird errors
Starparty
ive corrected a few tiles with starforge to make all the minerals in the main 100% tight to the walls
Starparty
that also goes for the small pillar outside 1nat
Starparty
pillarS*
Starparty
reupdated it to fit your original thinking more.

i kept the 2x2500 gas boost on the island though. i think its a cool boost to end a possible lockdown mid- to late game
Starparty
this was a fun concept actually. im glad u let me modify it. You should try the map sometime :9
STIMEY D OKGM FISH
i cant host games so it's kind of hard for me to get games on anything. plus i have no friends
Starparty
haah whospammed this map? :P
ScoutWBF
Well wasn't me but man 9.8 this map is MotY 8[
STIMEY D OKGM FISH
shouldnt it be
(2)Neighborly%201.1(o).scx
(2)Neighborly%201.1Ob(O).scx

the Ob is redundant
Starparty
not for people who doesnt know what it means. (o) is a term exclusively used on bwmn, and if ive never uploaded a map her ei wouldnt have an idea what (o) and (n) meant.
STIMEY D OKGM FISH
i want to see some real reps on this map now ;)
Starparty
i have one, but lis played bad there too and lost even though he had 34634634 guards and ultra :)
STIMEY D OKGM FISH
lol i mean a rep without lis
inept
im on atm what server/channel?
LGI
Btw this map could fit in a imbalanced contest... What will happen if terran land with a barrack between the mains? What will happen if terran land with a second barrack between mains? What will happen (if the enemy is still in the game, minerals, because all his workers will be attacked from the back of the minerals) if the terran user control his army just like Nal_ra on King of the Abyss vs Yellow? It's not that hard to move over the minerals, i already try, and it's not hard at all. Anyway if there is problems in the beging with marines for example zerg made his sunk near the minerals, so he can defend his drones against marines, and don't you think that terran will have a total ownage after he gets his tank? It's so easy to make some turrets between bases and then tanks.

Protoss might try a cannon rush again between bases with the sneaky pass trougt minerals trick.

If you ask me, such concept and gameplay have GREAT POTENTIAL! This might be the door to make some original new staff before the mapdorians, but it should be done in a better way. And i think that should be done in a total new map.

I will be happy if i say how Starparty will do this.
STIMEY D OKGM FISH
terran land the rax between? uh, sunken or photon, or goon. thats what happens. or hydra.

same thing to fight a probe attacking through the minerals

yes you have to fight cheese vs cheese, or at least watch for it and be ready to react, but i dont think that makes the map imba. they're all stalemates really, using the middle for cheese is pretty much noob bashing, even before he changed it so creep couldnt go through.

play any good player and try to do the things you said. terran can build a bunker in the middle that keeps toss from being able to photon inside there (even without range). zerg can make a sunken that makes anything inside there worthless. pretty straightforward.
Listoric
gogo, LGI vs Starparty, bo5 !! :o)

btw, i just let you win, so you get tired of playing against me and i have more sparetime X)
modified by Listoric
LGI
Where is he!? Where is HE?! LET ME EAT HIM!!! ARGGGH! GIVE IT TO ME! I AM GOING TO EAT HIS BRAIN FIRST, SO I MAKE BETTER MAPS, ARGH!
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