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Event Symmetrical Twos

deadline to enter maps: 2011, 08, 21 (Year, month, day)




So Im making this competition because there has been NONE in some time, we are overdue.. So I wanted to bring a bit of a competitive spirit back to the community, and what better way to do it than with a long awaited map contest! The goal is to show that BroodWar still Lives!! And to get some nice and pretty new maps in the database.

RULES:
(This is the most important rule) The map must be a 2 player map, and YOU CANT USE SYMMETRY TOOL! The type of symmetry HAS to be different that the normal way, you have to do everything by hand. What Im looking for is something along the lines of (2)Paranoid Android (2)SpiderMonkey (2)Elephant In Bottlen (2)Mermaid (2)Espionage (2)Captured silence. No X-Y symmetry!
The map has to be done specifically for this competition, that means you cant go and submit an old map of yours.
The maximum dimensions of the map are 128 x 128, anything form 96 x 96 and lower will not fly, but the 112 dimension is allowed . we are aiming for 10-30 minute games.
The map must be 100% your creation from scratch.
Map can be any tileset.
Spells, neutral buildings and mineral blocks are allowed.
Be careful with path issue and gas issue.
Try to make pathing as clean and fun as possible.
Try to make the maps playable.
Island and semi island are allowed but not encouraged.

JUDGING & TIPS:
I will deiced witch maps meet the requirements and which ones do not, and therefor witch maps do get the chance to participate in the competition but in the end it will be you guys who vote for the winner.
I know its hard specially in this type of maps, but try to keep the \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"wasted space\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" at a minimum.
This is also hard in this type of symmetry but be very, very careful with positional imbalances, this is one of the aspects that can decide if your map if well made or not.
Attention to detail and decoration is important here, so makes ur maps as good looking as possible.
Make your maps fun and interesting to play in.
Be careful with small mains and all of that annoying stuff.
Balance, you want to keep it as balanced as possible, but this is not the most important of things.
Its a high priority to be creative and original!

DEADLINE:
You have until next Friday, that is july 22 to upload your map into the contest so hurry up and go make your map! Gogogo!!

Questions? Comments? Please post them here.

P.S. Oh and by the way.. I am killer good at those types of maps (: so if i deiced to make 1 for this competition you better bring your A Game! ^^

NameAuthorDownloadvote(1., 2., 3. choice)
(2)Ecstasy 1.3CrystalDragMelee Obs Picture27
(2)Brood WarJungleterrainMelee Picture34
(2)Stupid MindArcTimesMelee Obs Picture4
(2)Phogna BolognaK_AMelee Obs Picture17
(2)NotAMapYetFreaklingMelee Picture2
The competition is closed!
Comments:

Starparty
im full of win.
Starparty
lala
Starparty
... to much text (:
modified by sTY_leZerG-eX
sTY_leZerg
lol wtf?
ThatOneGuy
Starparty went happy? who made this contest, i originally assumed Lz but now it looks like Starparty sort of stole the show O.o
LasTCursE
pictures don't work
LasTCursE
pictures don't work
sTY_leZerg
Im aware of it.. i dont know what i did wrong.. might have been and accident by missing a key character or something.. I would edit it.. but there is NO edit function :(
Freakling
I fixed your pictures... But somehow they still don't work... But all they are some random cutaway from some maps...
I also extended the deadline.
But I think I won't participate, no interest in (2) maps right now.
ArcTimes
Oh yeah, maps by hand, i like the idea :B
Phobic
Ill start to work on a map for this after tourney this wed
sTY_leZerg
aight people googgo
Phobic
I am struggling to make a map. Made a skeleton of one and it looks all lopsided and retarded.
Any tips on using this kind of symmetry?
modified by Phobic
CrystalDrag
+_+ Using rectangular boxes to do simple layout.
ArcTimes
I'm tring to use simple mathematics to make it balanced adn simetrical, but it seems that is really difficult to make it in a 128x112 map xD.
CrystalDrag
Problem is crappy cliff mechanic. +_+
Freakling
Works best if you have a pretty well thought out idea about what the whole thing's supposed to look like in your head, or maybe scribble something on a piece of paper, before you start out. Start with placing rough shapes of terrain and put CCs or something where the expos are supposed to be, so you get balanced distances, add rough choke points next, still keeping an eye on distances, finally add details, minerals and stuff... And use rough grids, 256 is a good spacing.
Phobic
still looks terribad
CrystalDrag
:) I am going to win by default if no one else uploads a map... C'mon :D
sTY_leZerg
hahah yes first map in action!!
tellur
Btw, with that dimension...It's not fully clear to me:I can make anything from 96x96 to 128x128 but not like 96x64 and such?
CrystalDrag
I think the map sizes are..
96x112(Not sure if this works)
112x96 (Not sure if this works)
112x128
128x112
128x128
96x128
128x96

Correct me if im wrong lezerg. O.o
sTY_leZerG-eX
ooo + maps on the map pool, and yes Crystal u rae right!
ArcTimes
o.O! Until 21st?
I thought it was until 30th x_x
I need to hurry
CrystalDrag
Lol Arctimes you dont have long . :D
sTY_leZerg
tellur 96x96 is no good, it has to be a bit bigger
CrystalDrag
-_-
Is this really just going to be two maps..
ArcTimes
I'M GOING TO PARTICIPATE!!!!
CrystalDrag
I like how there is tileset diversity.
CrystalDrag
WHERE IS THE LEZERG ONE WE HAVE BEEN WAITING TO CRUSH OUR DREAMS OF WINNING?!
Phobic
I'm working hard on mine now but it really is a pain in the ass. I keep having to reshape the layout to accomodate symmetry and balance.
JungleTerrain
128 Width, 112 Height works really good for this type of symmetry. I recommend using this size only for this type of symmetry, unless the concept is experimental in some way.

128x112 is really good map size for 2 players I think.
LasTCursE
DEADLINE:
You have until next Friday, that is july 22 to upload your map into the contest so hurry up and go make your map! Gogogo!!

sry you are all too late lol you get disqulified
modified by LasTCursE
CrystalDrag
Freakling edited the date...

deadline to enter maps: 2011, 08, 21 (Year, month, day)

Clever?..
Phobic
My maps startin to look really nice!! Spent so freaking long just mapping out the rough shape of it.
CrystalDrag
Why havent you post it, phobic? you wont be able to get input on it.
Phobic
It is not playable yet.
CrystalDrag
Voting. YAy.
Phobic
I feel like we all need some more time for edits. Or perhaps just most of us.
ArcTimes
I don't get know how to vote. What 1,2,3 means.
1 is good? 3 is good? they are places?

And I agree with phobic :X!!
LasTCursE
1 - Most points (5)
2 - Middle points (3)
3 - Least points (1)

You can vote for each map with only one of these and you can vote for maximum 3 maps, Votes can be changed at anytime before it closes :)
ArcTimes
WTF, i don't nget it.
Why did you put (5), (3) and (1)?
So 1,2 and 3 are palces? AHHHH
I GOT IT.
1 = 5 pts
2 = 3 pts
3 = 1 pts
Thanks
btw I can vote my own map? :3
LasTCursE
technicly you could but we don't tolarate that much here ;P
LasTCursE
It's like voting for your self for president ;D
ArcTimes
But they always do xD
CrystalDrag
I dont really want to vote....
Most of the maps are not finished because they were posted so late no input was able to be used...

LasTCursE
when does voting end?
CrystalDrag
Phobic, voting for your own?.. -_-
ArcTimes
Ok, so i can vote my own map xD?
Phobic
no shame.
sTY_leZerg
yeah no self votes guys ... -.- at least dont give urself 1st place..
LasTCursE
or for unknown author maps :P
CrystalDrag
Its all down to freaklings votes?
And K_A's too
LasTCursE
I bet freakling will comeout with the oddest choises of maps or don't vote at all lol
Nightmarjoo
Don't forget me!
Nightmarjoo
Whoever the author of Blood and Iron is should finish the map ._>
LasTCursE
Blood and iron is lezerg's map i'm pretty sure about that lol ^^
CrystalDrag
How come it seems as though there are no SPACE maps of this symmetry
K_A
Now I'll feel bad voting for myself cuz it could make me win :[

Edit: voted, made it so anyone else voting decides the winner :/
modified by K_A
CrystalDrag
You can change your vote K_A?
LasTCursE
Who's vote is left?
K_A
uhh freakling didnt use his 2nd vote
CrystalDrag
I think thats all of the people.
Unless Neobowman want to vote. o_o
ArcTimes
LOL K_A is winning with his own vote xD!!!
And it seems Freakling doesn't like the other maps D:
LasTCursE
Stupid mind is too low rated it's a good map :d
CrystalDrag
NOT FAIRRR K_A T_T
K_A
I liked my map, and the other two main contenders (yours included) weren't that exciting >.>
CrystalDrag
We didnt vote for ourselves >_>
K_A
Lies >.>
Down there it says crystaldrag voted for crystaldrag. You are the only one who did!
modified by K_A
ArcTimes
hahahahahahahahhahaHAhHAHahHAHkadklHSDKHkashdkasd

I'm going to vote my self too ò.ó
modified by ArcTimes
K_A
Arctimes isn't one of the choices sorry >.>
CrYsTaLdRaG
K_A I voted Phobic map XD
LasTCursE
there you go problem solved
ArcTimes
No Now i don't have points D:!!!
LasTCursE
LOL arc :D
K_A
I would complain but I'm not a sore loser like some people <.<
ArcTimes
:O I magically recover my points :))
K_A
Changed my votes lawl.
ArcTimes
When do I receive my prize?
sTY_leZerg
So we have 3 tied up maps? :) who has not voted yet?
CrystalDrag
I think every one voted. o_O?
testbug
Voted for BroodWar because it says Bw in the middle.

Voted for Ecstasay because it's a damn good map.
ArcTimes
And why not vote for stupid mind because i'm peruvian? :d

.
..
.

So, Brood War won? :o
modified by ArcTimes
testbug
No. por dos razones:
La primera es que la mineral-only de las 12 en punto, tiene 8 fields. y la de las 9 en punto tiene sólo 7.

La segunda es porque el puente de abajo está bastante mal copiado. Abre tu SCMDraft y selecciona cualquier unidad terrestre (por ejemplo, un zergling), verás que en medio del puente hay muchos \"unwalkable tiles\", estoy seguro de que un Ultralisk no puede cruzar por ahí.

Además, al empezar y terminar el puente, hay un tile de \"unwalkable Dirt\". El puente está pegado en un lugar no natural. Cuando quieras comenzar o terminar uno, revisa dónde encaja correctamente un Doodad, y luego dale click derecho-> Convert to Terrain.

En esta imagen explico mejor lo de los unwalkable tiles:
Image Hosted by ImageShack.us

Para mí, el ganador es (2)Brood War
Felicitaciones a todos los participantes.
Gracias por mantener el sitio con vida.

Saludos,
Ian Paul Brossard Núñez.
modified by testbug
testbug
btw, i finally managed to fix the 3 pics at the begening of the competition ;)
ArcTimes
LOL Gracias por las recomendaciones >.< y criticas, sugerencias >.<
Pero lo decia en broma :( Es que lo hice bien rapido porque se me acaba el tiempo del dead-line.
Yno lo modifique desde ahi porque estaba ocupado con la CL. Y ahora estoy ocupado con mis clases :(
Sigo visitndo la web y ha bajado su actividad considerablemente.

Denuevo gracias ^^
testbug
Si tienes algo de tiempo, me gustaría recuperar algo de práctica. Tengo entendido que usas protoss.

Creo que tú no tienes idea de quién soy yo...
Siempre he sido usuario de Zerg y, aunque no manejo bien los tiempos, me muevo mejor contra terran (defilers y nydus canals).

No tengo idea de cómo jugar contra protoss, he tratado de copiar a JaeDong pero siempre me ganan por cantidad. Creo que mi macro no es muy buena contra protoss.

¿tendrías tiempo como para compartir algunos momentos con un mappero veterano?
ArcTimes
Claro!! Me encantaria. Soy solo C- en iccup, no se que nivel tendras tu. Pienso llegar a C esta season, y si, me encantaria jugar contigo. Si se quien eres tu en todo esto del mapping. Por eso sabia de que pais eres y todo. Si quieres jugar en iccup, me encontraras gran aprte del tiempo en el canal op rQ con mi clan, y si jeugas en otro server avisame nomas
testbug
Estupendo, ojalá te encuentre alg[un día.
mi cuenta de IcCup es Testbug.
mi e-mail es testbug [arroba] msn [punto] com
yo nunca he pasado de D+ porque no sé jugar contra protoss ni zerg. Sólo sé jugar contra terran (aunque todavía no manejo bien los tiempos).
ArcTimes
lol, no entras desde el 30 de octubre q.q
Entra mas seguido para encontrarte xd
Yo enctro casi todos los dias.
Ya te agregue
modified by ArcTimes
sTY_leZerg
OOoOoo my pics are fixed!!! yay Testbug!
ArcTimes
O_O style_Zerg is alive!!!! yay!!
ArcTimes
I don't get it.
Jungleterrain already won this?
Nightmarjoo
I wanted to change my vote, but can't access my old id. Ignore my old one ._>
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