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MOTM 4.07 - Our First Ever

13 of May 2007 03:27 AM

Posted by:Nastymarine

A very historical competition for BroodWarMaps.net ends today. Our first Map of the Month has ended with (2)Angband 3600 ft. 1.2 by our very own Nightmarjoo!

The concept of the map complicates gameplay in relation to most maps here at BWMN. With the only passage to each main being very small (approximately two grids wide), it makes players lean towards using island based play to fight their opponents which brings a different type of play out of players. The expos are very interesting as well. Many of the mineral lines are spread so that some of the gas nodes are unavailable until one or more minerals are mined out completely changing player's availability to gas dependent units.

This is very nice for him as it is his first map he has ever had in the spotlight here at BWMN. Congratulations to you!

>Map Thread< here

>Map Picture< here

>Observer Version< here

Every month, when a MOTM has been made, we will also be posting the closest map to winning. (2)Jericho by LostTampon deserves just as much spotlight. It too promotes island gameplay in it's own way. It's set-up is simple without the use of spell sprites. The map's horizontal position's is it's best feature experimental wise, allowing intense micro battles but still the dwebs allow the time to expo and spread to other parts of the map - simply unique.

>Jericho's Thread< here

>Jericho's Picture< here

Again Congratulations to Nightmarjoo with grabbing the first MotM here ever.

Comments:

NastyMarine
Congratz Joel
Nightmarjoo
Thanks :) Congratulations LostTampon too.
LGI
The shittiest logo ever... Delete it plz, and put the old one.
DG)SpoilR
There you are!A other random admin decision,as always.What remains to say - I hope they are prepared to play it,cause the large SC-Community doesnt cares in no way about it.It would land like many other motw on the junkyard - and no one would remember,nor miss it. The last 2 MOTW wasnt very original,but at least they have a good execution.This map has not even this to show.It's well,playable.But oustanding,in no aspect. Some claims that democratic votes lower down the level of the winner of those psedo-contests.I disagree decided against this statement.To reach a lower level than this,it would be a challange.These admins decisions are more than ever the cancer of this site. It smells like the party after the burial.In fact it's nothing to celebrate.A grim day for this site,and a blemish for those admins that supported this decision.
flothefreak
have you ever played this map so you can judge?
Nightmarjoo
rofl spoilr what should we have picked? Galaxy Prime? It sucks ass, worse mains I've ever played in to start. FeedSomebodySSoul? lol, no, I'm zerg, I would never play that map. Endorphine? That map is retarded. LGI I tried the old one at first, but it's partially cutoff (the one in our files thing), so it's hard to read, and it didn't look very good on the grey of space. Also, I made this one, I like it :) Make a better one and I'll use it.
NastyMarine
LOL @ SpoilR
DeSade
I think all maps in that contest were quite bad (at least nothing special). But why is it admin's choice? This could really lead to some serious troubles when finally some good maps have a close competition. btw when I look at the motm 4.07 thread this map is not even 3. !!!
ptar
Yeah, i think so too DeSade. Why does this map win??? It's the most experimental map i have ever seen and btw i don't like this one here. Ok the votes for Endorphine were fake votes. But why doesn't FSS or Jericho win !?! FSS is a little imba with the open natural, but what abaout Jericho. I can't find anything wrong with it.I can't understand the Admins, how they could made this decision.
flothefreak
i just counted the votes. Jericho and angband are about head-to-head. so there must be a decision, and this decision is made by the admin writing the newspost. from the votes, it really depends of which you regard as trusted member, and which not. esp. those who seldom post are on the edge. and if two maps are about the same votes, each of it has the right of getting MOTM. angband has shown a very nice gameflow in avaton, so i am totally okay with it.
Arden(WoF)
I didn't like any maps in the competition, so I'm indifferent to the decision... But I am happy for Nightmarjoo none the less.
tktkvroom
FInaly Spoiler stfu I love you joel this your best map fo sho, Though I didn't get to test it alot >,< I still think its a good choice. Great work!!! & get that stupid BWMN thing out of middle put it in corner or somethign
DeSade
Ok you have to edit the votes. That's ok, didn't think of it when I compared them. But plz consider my proposal which I've posted in the motm 5/07 thread: 1. vote = 3 points 2. vote = 2 points 3. vote = 1 point or just one vote at all.
DeSade
Ho and take the logo of LGI plz. It's great.
Nightmarjoo
lol my logo wasn't that bad. But I opt for PlaZma's it is really nice, thanks LGI, and thank PlaZma for me too. Ptar/DeSade/SpoilR why are you complaining now? It was made clear by Nasty that the competition was down to angband/jerico, why didn't you say anything then? You are useless if you just whine after the decision was made instead of contributing to the decision making process. Thanks tk :) I had placed the logo there cuz there aren't any expos there, and I didn't want to cover anything with the logo that might be important to gamers, but PlaZma's logo I can make transparent without destroying part of the text so it's still readable, so I put it in the center.
DeSade
Read my last post plz. It's no offence.
lnept
where are all these idiots coming from? they make 1 map or maybe even none and think they own the place. If you dont like this site, please leave. no one will miss you.
Nightmarjoo
Read my last post too, and look at the image -.- lol lnept, couldn't have said it better myself ;)
DG)SpoilR
Inept you have confound the site.This is not the republican headquarter mainsite.You and your jewisch friend dont represent the SC-Comunity,nor anyone would miss you too,also.The majority whose votes have been ignored,are this community. If you dont like democratic rules go to N-Korea and send us a email from time to time.Or join in the republican party.I'm sure they need propaganda dudes like you.
NastyMarine
ROFL! @ SpoilR You, my friend, are lucky we dont have ban functions, or you'd be gone with that remark.
DG)SpoilR
You are not better than those two,you fop.Because otherwise you would know the difference between right & wrong. So,pipe down!
NastyMarine
LOL again. Why does bwmn draw idiots?
Arden(WoF)
I have half a mind to just delete any incoming SpoilR maps, just out of spite. Pssh...
Falcon_A
I am proud to have not voted for any map this month. I liked quite a few, and this was one of the few that actually DID stand out to me. Congrats, Nightmarjoo
Falcon_A
However, didn't Endorphine (apparently still is, just looked at the thread) have MUCH more votes?
LGI
Honestly for a MotW it's ok, but for a MotM, they were better maps in the threat. I am sorry that i've checked them now, not before... So yes, i go with some of posts here against Nighmarjoo & NastyMarine. Try to listen what the poeple here say, because you will continue wondering why people leave this site, and for sure you won't have any new faces around here. YOU ARE NOT GODS, AND YOU DON'T OWN THIS SITE! You've given to yourself very high rank in this site, just because of your part in gg.net, but remember this is BWMN, and you are on the same level as any other admin here. And every time the only admin voice is from both of you Nasty and Nightmarjoo liking your asses... My idea is: If the voting system is such a problem as your MotM, and not counting each voices, because this map is way behind... Then make an admin area to vote, or make all admin votes in other colours, and then count only them. If you are going to ignore all users votes, then just TELL THEM NOT TO WASTE THEIR TIME. Note: Seperating people is bad in life, but here you've already done it. You just have to make it clear.
flothefreak
we dont ignore all users. we only ignore dudes that come here, dont show any interest in commenting the maps, or making maps but still want to have the same weight as longtime members who often showed knowledge and skill. i am no friend of this new voting system to be democratic, as long as we cant deny those fakevoters. as long as there are people trying to manipulate the votings, we must fight them by ignoring - even if we then maipulate, too - at least the mapquality is hold high. and whoever cries because this is no democracy: NO FUCKING SITE ON THE INTERNET IS DEMOCRACY BECAUSE EVERY FORUM/SITE HAS WEBMASTERS AND ADMINS. AND THEY'RE NEEDED. IF YOU DONT THINK SO, TRY IT YOURSELF WITH YOUR OWN PUBLIC SITE.
ptar
Yeah Nightmarjoo, it wasn't an offence from me. But i am a little bit thinking like LGI. I've only uplaoded some maps,wich are bad (i think) , but i play scbw a long time now, and i can say, that my opinion, and these from others at this site are also very important. I only dislike, that some guys say, ok angband is good, and then it is MOTM. And i didn't say something before,because you guys didn't attend my votes. Thats what you actually said. I don't like too discuss this anymore and i hope next MOTM is more fair then this one was. I'm not angry about anyone, i only wanted to make this clear. (Gratz Nightmarjoo)
LGI
All i wanna say is that you can't say "If you dont like this site, please leave. no one will miss you." What do you want? A community or a VIP privete site? It's not yours... It's so sad that this site it's like... Not having an owner... If there was a BOSS or something everything would be fine now. But now most of the admins are abusing their power.
lnept
yes im abusing the language of truth LGI...rofl? I do not have any power here, other then to tell people that maps like endorphine which have been done 5000 thousand times, maybe not with the same execution, but what is the point of putting a map when there are better pro maps then it? we are not here to copy pro maps and put up lesser versions then them, as everyone will tell you no1 will play them. so in saying this, that is why angbang/jericho/feedsomebodyssoul would be better then endorphine and if your just going to whine about it then theres no point in staying on this site. that is what I meant by that.
LGI
First of all my post wasn't for you, you are not admin as you already point it out. I say it becaouse "lol lnept, couldn't have said it better myself ;)" And second, did i say that i want Endorphine to be the MotM? And old standart style map. Nothing new and special, i even wonder how this map got so many votes... And i don't care...
lnept
actually I am an admin, just never do anything lol
LostTampon
grats nightmarjoo :)
Alumni
congrats joel! both sides have good points. but i'm not choosing sides... in fact i'm with Arden lol. i didn't really like the maps in this contest and only voted with what the admins gave us to work with after narrowing it down to those 3-4 maps. so meh, any map could've won and it wouldn't bother me very much.
flothefreak
ptar's votes should count, though. he is no inactive fakevoter, and he is commenting maps. see LGI, if we admins wouldnt "abuse" our powers and let all be democratic, endorphine had won with all those fakevoters. and then everybody would wonder why it became motm -.-
Nightmarjoo
I don't have a problem with ptar. w00t at this motm thread having so many comments :D makes me proud^^ I don't understand LGI's position. I know he doesn't want endorphine motm, but idk what he would rather we picked. FSS is clearly imbalanced, so from the vote that leave Angband and Jerico high up. Lysis was sorta high up, I don't see any posts demanding that be motm... Pretty much I ignore fakevoters/those I don't know at all, ie those who are completely inactive. Now, after all the votes are counted you'll see FSS winning truly. But it has an imbalance, but could be improved with a quick edit. It's not our place to edit his map when he is capable of doing so, he's a 1time poster from mapdori =/ Sorry that there weren't a great selection of maps guys. I like my map of course, and I do really like Jerico. FSS is unplayable, GP is a joke, as is Endorphine. Lysis is ok, but I wish there was more testing of pvt since there were some comments indicating p>t possibly; not to mention it didn't recieve too many votes (after the votes were reset to implement the new voting system, it was quite high beforehand).
NastyMarine
im not worried about what any1 thinks. I selected the best map possible for this comp and thats it. if you dont like it, then make a better map.
Grief_Stricken
i agree with spoilr,also with lgi.they have understand that this contests are not contest any longer.some admin use them for their weekly/monthly ego-trips.and the worsest thing is they fool themselve,and are not even able to realize it.cause everything what anyone can call fake,is this decision.
NastyMarine
how do you figure? your reaching to prove false claims. Herb, control, potential, the golden, tsl, whether they are REAL members and not fake votes from one person or friends of grig, ALL are not active, why should we count these votes? regardless of which map they vote for, they are not going to be accepted until, like we've always said, they prove their voting privileges. NOT TO MENTION ALL THOSE NAMES STARTED TO VOTE ONCE GRIG STARTED SUBMITTING MAPS TO MOTW COMPS. SO STFU. STOP TRYING TO MAKE US LOOK BAD.
Grief_Stricken
you miss the point,again.even if you ignore these fakes,its still ffs that has more valid votes than angband.even you have voted for this,and now you wanna tell me you have vote a stupid map?what a nonsense! and those decisions are that whats make you look bad.cause they spare any background or support.
NastyMarine
SO what does that tell you? I IGNORED MY OWN VOTE B/C I WANTED AN ADMIN TO WIN???????? LOLLLLLLLLLLL I ALREADY STATED WHY THE MAP ISNT UP TO QUALITY. JUST BECAUSE I LIKE A MAP AS MY first CHOICE IT DOESNT MEAN IT DESERVES IT. SO THATS WHY IT ISNT MOTM. AND OBVIOUSLY YOU WERENT AT AVATON TOURNAMENT WHERE ALOT OF PLAYERS COMPLAINED ABOUT THE NAT. SO WHAT, I AM TO IGNORE PLAYERS WHO ACTUALLY PLAYED THE MAPS AND LISTEN VOTERS THAT PROBOBLY DONT EVEN PLAY ON THEM? LETS BE HONEST, ONLY A SELECT FEW PLAY MAPS HERE UNLESS ITS THEIR OWN.
lnept
no map is unplayable, just wanted to point that out. dont be a fag nightmar
Nightmarjoo
I was exagerating -.-
NastyMarine
MotM newspost has been published on GG.net along with a few others
LaO-Artanis
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