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BWMN showmatch 1: Mireille vs Technics10 of December 2005 08:38 PM
Posted by:panschk[FP]

While we have the confidence to say that we are a very strong mapmaking community for melee maps at broodwarmaps.net, we are not that confident in our playing skills :) That's why we can really get excited over a showmatch from two very good players on our maps. Those two players are the bulgarian zerg player eSu.Technics and the norwegian terran eye.Mireille.


In eight games on four different maps, they had to display the ability to play strong on maps that are not (yet?) known to most broodwar players. BWMN offers you the coverage here:
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Introduction
Report game 1 by Starparty
Report game 2, 3 by panschk
Report game 4, 5 by flothefreak
Report game 6, 7, 8 by panschk

I got to interview Mireille today, let's read what he has to say:
eye.Mireille (17)
Panschk:Congratulations to your win vs technics. How much did you practise the maps before?
Mireille:I didnt really practise them, I just played a couple of games at everymap and considered some strategys and buildorders on the maps. However I only played 3 of the 4 maps more then once.
Panschk:In the 6. game of the series on origo_hills, you had some scv blocked behind gas. How did that happen and how did you get it out of there?
Mireille:hm I can't really remember. But there is a very tight main on Origio Hills(like Neo Forte). Because of the narrow build they didnt follow my orders. However i can't really remember it since I focused on the micro of the game and i havnt watched the replays yet.
(Editor's note:The bug was caused by a supply depot built next to the gas with the scv coming out on the "wrong" side. The scv was not lost, mireille just needed to put it into the gas to bring it back on the right side. So no big deal and no real map bug neither.)
Panschk:Which was your favorite game of the series? I liked game 6 (wraith game) most.
Mireille:Yes that was a cool game, but the worst map. First game on Origio Hills I got so badly raped cause i didnt know the map and all the entrys to the expos. However I dicided to play with wraiths in the second game on Origio Hills and it went out pretty smooth.
Panschk:What was you impression of technics? I felt like he was stronger in the macro part of the game than micro, while I thought your micro was your biggest strength. Was the result "fair" for both players?
Mireille:Hm yes, considering the maps the results where pretty fair. Technics was better then i thought and played very solid. I felt confused in all 8 games and wasnt sure about strategys nore the maps. Technics biggest strength was the maps, he played them allot better then I did and knew exactly what was going on in the game, wich is sad that i couldnt make use of like him. On the other hand I won my games rather easy by just reading hes moves. Some average micro and macro was enough to give me the win.
Panschk:okay, so studying maps is pretty important it seems:)
Panschk:Do you think playing "user maps" could become more popular in the months and years to come? In my opinion the situation has already improved a lot in the past two years, remember how it was almost lost temple only back then?
Mireille:Ofcorse! When I heard about this showgame with new maps I got very excited. It was really fun to try new maps and be the first one to archive the best strategys of the maps. It's not as easy as it looks. In normal showgames you just watch some replays with some good players of the map. This time I had to decide 100% by myself what to do.
The gosugamers MOTW tourney is cool and a prefect way to gain new experience of different maps. Thanks to this and events like Blizzcon or PGT ladder people starting to play different maps then LT.
Panschk:yeah, PGT did a very good job too, props to them:)
Panschk:Would you play another showmatch like this some day, and if yes, do you already have some wish for opponent?
Mireille:Yes I really want to play it again, and maybe a protoss opponent this time on a higher level. I would say Draco. Hes a good protoss and it could be really cool games! :)
Panschk:Thanks for the interview.Any greetings or comments?
Mireille:shoutout to Draco, hope you accept my invitation to the challange :)!
Comments:

panschk
@starparty: I did not communicate with Gamingeye, they can still use this however they want, but you would have to contact them then.
flothefreak
I liked it especially when you introduced the whole tourney with a bug on my map. I don't consider it very mannered bringing personal dislikes towards maps into such a public thing.
If you don't like it, hold it to yourself.
that actually sucks very much
panschk
? I was just curious about it. I wasn't really a bug as he managed to get the scv out of there too. Well I can edit it out if you want..
Starparty
Well seeing as much trouvble we have had with that map as it is, id say you take your responsibility and correcting such bugs.

Its not a personal disliking to state a fact. The scv bugged there, end of story.
panschk
something like this can not really be prevented. I'm not even sure it is a map bug. Because if the placement of gas was "wrong", the problem would occur in every game.
flothefreak
well, the bug was certainly not a map-bug, for there isn't done anything with custom whatever, just pure SE-work. so this is no map-bug.
and no matter what you say, origo hills loses out in this interview. and I'm even not sure if this was on purpose or not.
panschk
Well Mireille did not like the map. So he states it in the interview. I won't edit it untill everything is only love and harmony. Origo hills is diffcult to play, but you should know that I did not do anything on purpose to make it look bad. Why should I? I voted for this map in BWMN mappack too, because it is a very good map.
flothefreak
but you were the one who complained about "as long as there are sooo bad bugs, it's bad, etc"
so well, I see that I was wrong by your edit, sry then
Listoric
Very nice interview! Nice reporting guys. Keep up the good work.
hefty
Great job, yeah! Let's try to persuade Draco into playing Mireille - that would be something!

It's quite unproffesional to whine about map bugs mentioned. If there is any problem with a map, it should surely be reported, and it's a bad idea to be too proud to see it mentioned in an official post. After all, it should be your main priority that your map gets optimized.
flothefreak
it's not a map bug, stupid.
Mireille
Well the map Origio Hills is very cool, but need some changes in the main expansion. It's almost impossible to defend it, and now im talking about every races. Maybe you could make one of the paths into the expo smaller to avoid the opponent to drive hes whole army in the second entry. Even if this opens new strategys it's only about defending the base. All games will end very fast on those maps since its so easy to lose the expansion. But maybe thats a good thing. =)
However a simply bug is nothing to worry about. Just change it so it wont happend again to the next showmatch.
Btw gw
flothefreak
well, thx :)

the strange thing about those natural expansions is that some love it (I liked it in PvT for example very much), while others hate it ^_^
it's very MU-depending I think. good for tvz-attacks, zvp-attacks, pvt attacks.
bad the other way round.

dunno what I'm going to do, we'll see :p
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