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• MotW 2006.02•

deadline to enter maps: 2006, 01, 06 (Year, month, day)


Go, go, create!

NameAuthorDownloadvote(1., 2., 3. choice)
(2)ValhallaRSCup.SpitfireMelee Obs Picture0
(4)SNitch!--v|mOsQMelee Picture0
(4)Home of the swarmpanschk[FP] & flothefreakMelee Obs Picture0
(4)Memory CelltrccMelee Obs Picture0
(2)MidomaepidiOnMelee Picture0
(4)Obsession1.1Starparty & trccMelee Obs Picture0
(2)Sleeping Sun FinalScoutWBFMelee Obs Picture0
(4)SNitch!--v|mOsQMelee Picture0
(5)Sungaze 1.1MillenniumArmyMelee Picture0
The competition is closed!
Comments:

ScoutWBF
Add fuckn industrial disease!!! or write a comment...
LGI
Well i add (2)Xenomorph again...
LaO-Artanis
My first entry to the MOTW competition. I don't expect to win it, but why shouldn't I try?
SpoR
are we supposed to submit our maps ourselves or does someone pick them ?
panschk
both. Actually you post the map you want to see as motw. If that happens to be one of yours, ok. The reason why you think it should be MOTW should not only be that it is your map though^^
ScoutWBF
Both.
SpoR
Ok, I submitted 2 of my maps. There is a problem with the picture of chaos circuit the actual picture of the map is down in the thread. The picture that is up is imbalanced earlier version where the land between horizontal bases is connected.
SpoR
There is no password on my earlier map submissions so I can't edit them.
SpoR
I also put snitch and home of the swarm on the list ^^
ScoutWBF
If there is no Password you just let the password box empty.

Either u add industrial disease now or you write a comment!
LaO-Artanis
Scout, why don't you simply add your own map to the map contest? You don't need to ask someone else to do it.
ScoutWBF
BEcause I said I don't add my own maps anymore
epidiOn
If you don't add your own maps, then you shouldn't yell at people to add them for you.
ScoutWBF
Sry I meant Won't.If I add them they lose anyway so the others should decide if it even has a chance.
Listoric
and if it is so, the map will be added anyway... so you won't need to yell at people. logic, isn't it?

LGI, Spit, epidion and trcc are the ones who are in my fav list this week. Nice maps.
epidiOn
I really like Memory Cell.

Listoric: thanks, I appreciate that :D.
panschk
My top 3:
1)home of the swarm (I would prefer if there was more chances to balance-test it, but I don't see anyone doing it so...If it gets a GG.net post and all it might get the testing it needs, and we can see what better players say about balance then)
2) Xenomorph
3) sleeping sun. I think most people here underrate it. It looks pretty fine to me.
Starparty
go HotS. lets make it an experimental week :)
hOuse)Affetuoso
1) Snitch
2) Memory Cell
3) Paragraph
decaf
Can we just give it to sleeping sun already? it's been in like the last 5 motw contest -_-
ScoutWBF
1)Sleeping Sun Final
2)Midoma
3)Memory Cell
ScoutWBF
"Can we just give it to sleeping sun already? it's been in like the last 5 motw contest -_-"

No sympathy bonus pls^^or lets say anoyment bonus!

By the way look at MTT thread at main forum
epidiOn
1. Memory Cell
2. Obsession
3. Xenomorph
Inept
1. none atm
2. Fatali
3. Xenomorph
trcc
1.Obsession xD

:P
SF
1. MC
2. Valh. (:PPP)
3. Obs
:P
WFC FORCE
best 4 players map = Snitch
best 2 players map = Midoma
--v|mOsQ
1. (4)Snitch !
2. (5)Sungaze
3. (4)Fatali
Starparty
I would never let a map which doesnt have 2-4 startlocations win this.

best 2player map is undoubtably vallhalla followed by xenomorph and sleeping sun.

best 4 player map is close between obsession and memory cell. Although the new-to-be-uploaded Obsession version >>> Memory cell :p

wildcard is Home of the Swarm.

If anything else wins this week it will be a biased desicion not based on playabillity.
rAfter)FsC(
i realy like (4)Snitch !
(2)Valhalla not bad map too
rAfter)FsC(
hmmm (5)Sungaze looks very nice :)
3rd place xD
sE)FirespirE
So i like (4)Fatali and (4)Snitch !
gl all mapmakers
LGI
So thx, i like Fatali too :D
Your Name
(4)Snitch ! - 14
(4)Memory Cell -
(4)Fatali -
(4)Obsession -
(5)Sungaze -
(2)Valhalla -
(2)Sleeping Sun Final -
(4)Home of the swarm -
FN_Techno
lol fucking button ^^
FN_Techno
(4)Snitch ! - 14
(4)Memory Cell - 9
(4)Fatali - 5
(4)Obsession - 5
(5)Sungaze - 5
(2)Valhalla - 4
(2)Sleeping Sun Final - 4
(4)Home of the swarm - 4
(2)Paragraph - 1

Im'right ? Omg wanna sleep sorry for flood...
Stupid week imho. Need MORE GOOD maps !
bRinGmE2life!
Hi :)
I'm new on this site. Can i add my map or vote ? oO
ScoutWBF
What do you mean with the numbers,Techno?
MillenniumArmy
"I would never let a map which doesnt have 2-4 startlocations win this."

Damnit :P
Listoric
Starparty
I would never let a map which doesnt have 2-4 startlocations win this.

best 2player map is undoubtably vallhalla followed by xenomorph and sleeping sun.

best 4 player map is close between obsession and memory cell. Although the new-to-be-uploaded Obsession version >>> Memory cell :p

wildcard is Home of the Swarm.

If anything else wins this week it will be a biased desicion not based on playabillity.


I just can second this. Totally my opinion.

Except the 2-4 Startpoint thing. But the other maps are just too good in comparison in my eyes. Still it's a very interesting 5 player map MA, really!
Listoric
I edited the list a bit and removed candidates who can't win because of obvious balancing issues only to ease the decision a bit.

Valhalla | Xenomorph | Memory Cell | Obsession

are it this week in my eyes. What are your favs?
MillenniumArmy
Since I made it, I'm going to vote for (5)sungaze as my number 1:P

as for two and three...
(4)Memory Cell
(2)XenoMorph
bRinGmE2life!
I can't add my map :((((

Top3 maps imho:
- Snitch
- Home of the swarm
- Sungaze

thx good luck all
panschk
deadline is over man. Just read...

snitch is not that bad, but as long as mosq doesnst even care about balance, not way.

Please dont expect us to be democratic here. We have a responsibility for mapmaking, we can't just let some groupies push a map to MOTW.
panschk
what I mean is, at least make high ground unbuildable at the borders to make drops easier. Hum, maybe its not that bad. Dont know, im not active playing bw atm.
bRinGmE2life!
You do by a MOTW that, that is pleasant to you ? If voting solves nothing, what for it ? ...
SpoR
I don't see whats wrong with a 5 player map for 1v1. I personally hate 2 player maps they are boring and very easy to make compared to 3 or 4 player maps. Making a 5 player map is really really hard if anyone can make a decent 5 player map i give them mad props because ive tried and failed several times. Its just so hard to fit in all the balance and nice looking terrain without making a boring map, like the one that is in the contest.
--v mOsQ
agree with SpoR
Starparty
this is a competition for playable balanced maps in the players eye, not a competition for mapmakers who can make the most experimental and outrageous maps. Arena > Sungaze any week in this competition, sorry.
--v mOsQ
I hate arena, it's standart and not interesting map. Sungaze more interesting than Arena -.-
Starparty
but its way more playable 1on1 in terms of balance. Focus on the important things.
--v mOsQ
Why do you estimate cards only as 1x1 ?
--v mOsQ
*maps -.-
ScoutWBF
Because 1v1 is played the most and the MotW is for a 1v1 tournament.
--v mOsQ
ok, ok

So why i can't login ? ;/
SpoR
Yea, I didn't say (5)Sungaze was a good map. All i'm saying is that 5 player maps should not be biased out of the competition just because you've never seen a good one. You should make the next RMC be 5 player map only. I bet you could get some MotW quality maps. ^_-
Starparty
Doubtly better than 2-4 player maps with the same prerequisities :p
Listoric
Votes are for information. It would be totally dumb to just count the votes and make the map with most votes MOTW, because votes are biased. Maybe you like the author, hes a friend or something, or you just come by and vote for a map. That's not what it is upposed to be, and that is why there is no real poll here.

Everytime i write the motw article (which i also won't do this week because i'm just to busy :/) i read thorugh all comments, see what maps are good and why, count the votes, make up my mind and decide the winner. Easy as that. And i'm totally with Starparty. Playability/Quality is simply most important. A map can be totally flashy and outrageous looking. If the balance or playability is missing, it will never make MOTW.

Also a 5 player map has almost no chance to win the competition in my eyes too. Still, Sungaze is a very interesting map, and i left it here just to give props to MA in first place, and to see how many people would like it to be Motw at all.

Actually i could think about something like "Special Map of the week" for maps which are "out of the limits" somehow. Like Sungaze as 5 player map, or Home of the Swarm as UMS map. But that's just mindfuck by now.

A "real" Motw has to be totally balanced, great looking and interesting.

And to The Arena. Starparty made this map and said himself "this map is boring because it is so simple". But people loved it. And i also love it, because it is almost the perfect standard map. And as stupid it may sound to some unexperienced mappers. But it's quite hard to create a balanced map, even if it's a "standard" map somehow.

Anyway, to much blabla as always. ^^

Snitch definetely won't make it until it is updated heavily. I posted like 8 things on first glance, and none of it is changed. Quite dissappointing, because the map itself would have a good chance as MOTW if mOsQ would work on it. But as it is now, it's totally unfinished and has obvious imbalances and flaws.
MillenniumArmy
I didn't expect sungaze to win at all. I just wanted to see who liked it :P

But my main reason, actually, for posting it here in this competition was I hoping that i could bring more attention to that map, and thus, more feedback for it.
MillenniumArmy
And so far, it's not working...
panschk[FP]
sungaze is really great work. I actually think it could be MOTW. The few 1on1s on it will be okay, and it will obviously not be a PGT map unless 5 player FFA becomes PGT playing mode :O

But right now, we earned ourselves a nice position where people actually pay attention to what we do. That's our chance to bring in some "new" stuff instead of the same style in different tileset every month. Like a 5 player map or a map with zerg buildings everywhere. Don't let the innovation always come from korea. Sad enough we only began using neutral buildings here _after_ the first OGN beta maps were released on PGT, that we use mineral blocks at wallins to copy forte, minerals at islands since namja iyagi etc etc. Just saying, we should set our own trends and take the risk of getting some negative feedback from the people who still think the LT-only time was the best time of SC.


Concerning snitch: I do not like MosQ, but this map really is not bad. If he did some changes like listoric suggested, plus making the part of the cliffs that reaches into the middle of the map unbuildable, I could accept it as motw. Right now, not. Just neither very balanced nor playable :X
LGI
I think people here need a 5-6-7-8 players map competition :) . If someone wants to make it - he is welcome :))) . And don't get me wrong. I am not saying this for every week, as the MotW competition. I am suggesting this as SP Random Map competition, or something like that.
Starparty
yoU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO AFFECT THE COMPETITIONRULES bwahahaMUAAGHAGGAAAGGAAJAHAHAHA

and i agree with panschk to some extent too, i just want players to think "perfectly balanced maps" when they see bwmn url. Perhaps the experimental maps like HotS should be pushed in some other way instead of MotW.
LGI-
I can write the article again, but who will be this time?! I really can't diside.

*Notice that if i don't resive any comments about the MotW soon, i will vote for my own map >:E
ScoutWBF
Sleeping Sun for the win XD

Dunno look the best map this time for me^^
sp
id say valhalal is the safest card. spitfire made that one nice
FN_Techno
Snitch should become a card of week, it will be correct. Otherwise all this voting - nonsense.
bRinGmE2life!
FN_Techno
not "card" - map ^^ www translators must die
sp
techno, keep your thoughts too yourself. This is a serious competition and votes from random people just passing by doesnt weight that much. I could bring 10 fanboys voting for my maps too and i would win every week.
--v mOsQ
There are all mapmakers man. 2 - my friends, and i don't know others -.- How many persons has voted for Valhalla ? It seems, only its author.
--v mOsQ
To tell the truth, I don't see here a map which would deserve to become MOTW more, than mine. It's balanced, tested and ready, for it even someone has voted (surprisingly!) - WHAT prevents to become it the MOTW ? What LGI does not love me? What children's bias, I am disappointing in this site -.-
ScoutWBF
"It's balanced"People that lie come into HELL ya know?HELL!

Go for SS 2 or 3guys voted for it^^
--v mOsQ
Do you really think that your map is good ? Yes, it's your best map, but it is rather mediocre and uninteresting. On two players to do island maps most easier. You are angry with me because cannot make a good map ? Yes, my map is balanced, that will not tell about yours.
ScoutWBF
Learn english dude.I can easyly make a better map than your Snitch! is -_-;;
LGI-
Can i see more posts from more advanced map makers?
ScoutWBF
No XD
--v mOsQ
ScoutWBF
in your dreams mb ^^
--v mOsQ
ScoutWBF
in your dreams mb ^^
ScoutWBF
Nobody wants to play your empty map.My map is perfected or nobody has found something till now,while they still critisize your map.
--v mOsQ
You have interrogated each member bw community ? Your map is simple and uninteresting, and and here in general your map ? For it though somebody has voted? Who you are to yelp on me?

Can not do at all MOTW this week, but make MOTW not Snitch - means to act meanly and dishonestly. bb
ScoutWBF
Stop using that damn Translator and learn engöish.Its quite impossible to understand ur sentences.

By the way Snitch! won't get MotW anyway^^
rAfter)FsC(
Not to you it to solve, ScoutWBF.
panschk
I still think balancewise it is far from OK. And mosQ does not want to change it. In the end we have respect to lose that is why I don't want to go for strict democracy. I will ask some external guys about their opinion on balancing.
Listoric
Snitch is far away in quality from Memory Cell, Valhalla, Xenomorph or Obsession. I say it again, i pointed out like 8 flaws and all you do is ignoring them instead of REALLY make a good map out of a good concept.

To say it in simple words.

Snitch! now - 5 points from 10
Snitch! reworked - 8 to 9 points

Think about it... and for those who are here the first week and tell us how to decide MotW, simply shut up, because this is rediciolous...

I vote for Valhalla.
epidiOn
mosQ, everybody here is trying to help you improve your maps, but being stubborn isn't helping anyone. Just accept that they might be right, and try not to be so offensive towards others please.
panschk
I asked my clanmates on the FP-forum, the protoss players said they think it is a pretty good map for them. So the terran>all point may not be that valuable. I would still beg you to just make scan possible on islands, have some unbuildable drop zone, make mainbases slightly bigger. But I would not oppose myself to it being motw anymore.
panschk
Listoric made some great points on the snitch map comments too. I think it is already ok, but it could be so much better with medium effort.
sp
Well its simply a matter of succumbing to the majority if one wish to win. It doesnt really matter what one think, because if everyone else thinks different no one will care about your map and no one will play it. Then you can sit there with your perfect creation but no one will ever bother with it.
ScoutWBF
Just pick a map for random -_- roll a dice or something XD
LGI
I guess, (2)Valhalla wins this week. Is there someone who can write the article? Somehow i don't know what to say about that map. It's good, balance and i like it but... not my taste, sorry.
--v mOsQ
LGI
Who voted for Valhalla ? It becomes MOTW only because you so has solved ? TT that for bosh, you dishonour this site -.-
LGI
For me Snitch is just a skeleton map, still needs lots of work. It's just empty. Not to mantion gas issue, and the stupid tank range, that will effect your gas at main from outside, hahahaha... Don't forget to work on the air expands. People already told you what to do, you brainless creatur.
ScoutWBF
Just give him the fuckn MotW if he wants it so much!Nobody will play his map anyway.
--v mOsQ
Gas issue ? Fixed.
Tank range ? Range of attack is counted and tested.
Air expands ? Finished !
"hahahaha" ? pity clown -_^
Tell to me, how many you play starcraft and make maps ? Really you so panically are afraid of siege tanks ? You will fabricate what else problems ? Lol you are pity and ridiculous. bb
Starparty
in any other community Mösq would be banned for his worthless behaviour. I believe this is a perfectly good reason not to let him participate in anything before his mommy raises him with a bit of manners.

Im not unproffesional. You are. You think we will make your map famous when you cant even behave? grow up. You will never make it in this community because you have neither manners, skill, nor style. I pity you so bad right now. "^^"
--v mOsQ
Yes me bm. Bm ownz. And WHAT ?
--v mOsQ
I did not speak that you not the professional. I in general about you did not speak anything. To me on you to spit, you trust ? Read on lips: to spit. I have drawn a map. I have hung out it on voting. For it have voted. Now you do not wish to do it MOTW. To me and on it to spit. I repeat - do that want, if your conscience allows you that.
Starparty
people like you hurt the community.
--v mOsQ
Really ? But I always speak the truth and not a hypocrite.
Starparty
yea right... You highly overestimate yourself.
--v mOsQ
just facts
ScoutWBF
Votes mean nothing.I had 6votes once but I still lost.
panschk
Of course votes mean a lot. But actually noone I know and respect voted for snitch. So what does that prove? I still would have no problem with the map itself, it would be one of the worst motw ever, but still not ridiculous, if it wasn't for mOsQ arrogant and childish character. So as a motw author also represents us as a person, I think this can't be motw. You may think this is not fair, but that`s the way things go. How many CDs has michael jackson sold since being accused of raping children? And what you do is worse :O
Starparty
Isnt it quite hard to log on this site every time knowing that noone here likes you? T__T
Starparty
You think you are special and dont need people to like you. Well, we'll see how far you go in life with such character :'(
ScoutWBF
PLease make a map MotW fast.This discussion goes on my fuckn nerves!
Starparty
mabye move this competition to the gg.net forum so we can do it without interference?
--v mOsQ
To me it is indifferent. To receive MOTW - not the purpose of my life. You behave as children. gl
Starparty
hehe now you are the hypocrite.
--v mOsQ
no, sorry -.-
FN_Techno
Make MOTW and go 2006.03 children
Inept
what do you gain by calling people children when almost everyone here is 16+ -_-
MillenniumArmy
Hurry up with the MotW thing already!
panschk
oh well..which map.

I let starparty decide :O
rAfter)FsC(
What about 03 ?
panschk
It is hard to decide on motw 3 if you do not know motw 2. In the end one map gets both title or something^^
--v mOsQ
What do you waiting for ? Do MOTW. If you are ready to break rules because you don't like my "bm", stick with a finger into any card and make it MOTW.
sp
valhalla. Mosq can die for all that i care.
ScoutWBF
omfg Valhalla?In my opinion that map sucks ass 8[
--v mOsQ
ALL this maps arent great -.-
sp
and yours is the worst.
Listoric
Erm guys, i'm going to write the articele now, because we are more than late. I really don't have any time to spent on BWMN at the moment, but if you can't get it right, someone has to do it :P
--v mOsQ
I don't think so, starparty -.-
Listoric
i dont think so either, anyway, new competition is up, submit maps, update them, discuss them, make your votes. let's go on.
epidiOn
Writing the article.
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