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MOTM 9.07

deadline to enter maps: 2007, 09, 14 (Year, month, day)
Ok, make some good maps please, so we don't have three failed motm competitions.

NameAuthorDownloadvote(1., 2., 3. choice)
(4)ErebosProTosS4EveRMelee Obs Picture31
(2)MuckLML (Pimped by Starparty)Melee Picture21
(2)Scope LenslneptMelee Picture12
(4)CorilithExcaliburMelee Picture6
(2)AmnesiacSauruSMelee Picture4
(2)NuclearptarMelee Obs Picture7
(2)Street SpiritSauruSMelee Picture2
(2)Arches of CharLancetMelee Picture0
(2)Cadence 1.3ExcaliburMelee Picture9
(4)Mirage IIflothefreakMelee Obs Picture28
(2)GreedAhzzMelee Obs Picture6
(4)ElectioneeringSauruSMelee Picture11
The competition is closed!
Comments:

ProTosS4EveR
MOTMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!1!! <3 <3 <3 <3
LML
!!!11oneeleven!!
Crackling
muck is nice :O

this gonna be hard one for testbug-crackling
team^^

but we will win :>
modified by Crackling
ProTosS4EveR
hqhqhq my greek god gonna pown you easily ;D
modified by ProTosS4EveR
Testbug
i LOVE Erebos (i want to make a (3)Erebos)
Excalibur
Im going to re-do the main and nat setup on corilith, but as it stands i think its one of my better maps.

Edit:
Done
modified by Excalibur
ProTosS4EveR
Ye, i'm very proud of my Erebos. ;D
Nightmarjoo
I'm considering making an edit of erebos to make it a ground map.
Lancet
We have a pokeman map, Moon Tear a.k.a. Metapod. I just remembered there is a pokeman named "Muck". Any connection?
Testbug
there is a pokemon names muk, and no
there isn't any connection.

i would like to make (3)Erebos ground map
Nightmarjoo
Ok, I'll leave it to you then, Testbug.
ProTosS4EveR
Yeah, i saw that it is possible to make a ground ver of Erebos, maybe i will do it but i think i will need to make an other bridge because there isn't many flanking possibities... But in a 1v1, it should be good.
modified by ProTosS4EveR
Excalibur
Rawr!
Cadence is alive! Stick that in your pipe and smoke it! :D
LML
maybe you are just too much pokemon freak lancet? ;))
Testbug
deadline ends today :(
ProTosS4EveR
Today?? Not 15th? =o
LML
14th...
ProTosS4EveR
Oh yeah 14th xDD
Nightmarjoo
Testbug to first grade please, learn how to read dates! :D
Testbug
:(
ProTosS4EveR
14th month?? OMFG?? O,o
LML
lol^^:D
Testbug
:(
gigant
sorry bout this. my map is actually jungle, but when I first tried to submit it wouldnt let me cuz of names and after that I forgot so it stayed as ash ~~


EDIT: yeah, changed to jungle
modified by gigant
Testbug
SauruS please don't make a map named "My iron Lung"
ProTosS4EveR
FCUK ALREADY 15TH??? O_O
gigant
eh, excalibur, here people really dont vote their own maps. this is pretty lame since you voted your own maps but I guess you didnt know ~~
Lancet
By the way I did not read this before:

"Ok, make some good maps please, so we don't have three failed motm competitions."

The competitions are stalled because the admins do not wish to follow the will of the majority.
Excalibur
Meh, as i see it my maps have about as much chance of winning as a horse in a dog show.

Plus im not a fan of the current maps in the lineup. Erebos is ok i guess.
Moebius
Erebos is gosu...
Lancet
LOL! Excalibur

"Meh, as i see it my maps have about as much chance of winning as a horse in a dog show."

At least you have a horse which is a mammal, my maps are the slug in the dog show! But I would have voted for Cadence if you had not changed it.
Excalibur
I have a thread on staredit devoted to my confusion with which version of Cadence was best. I seriously knew that i ruined it and i sort of just said
'Well, i screwed up the best map i ever made.....Damn...'
flothefreak
lol, dont you keep the old version until you KNOW your edit is better?
Excalibur
I wasnt sure Flo.
Anyway after getting some opinions i reverted it to 1.3.
Lancet
You can get some advice and change your map but in the end you should like it. What is the point in winning MOTM if you don't like your map? What is important is that your map would get your vote even if we don't (or SHOULD NOT) vote for our own maps.
Testbug
Excalibur really thinks Corilith is better than Erebos..

OHH MIRAGEII IS HEREEEE!! (but i have find a way to push the dark templars with my probes, you tell them to gather some minerals and stop when they are on the dark templar, dark teplar will start walking, but does protoss really need to waste 400 minerals on a new nexus?)
flothefreak
sure you can slide-push the DT, but that again takes some times which still delays you.
Lancet
..but does protoss really need to waste 400 minerals on a new nexus?"

Yes because the mining distances are longer (specially if you are toss). Also like Flo says it may take a while to force the DT to walk away far enough as to allow you to build a new nexus. It is easier to get a photon cannon/turret.
Testbug
yeah but erebos looks ecactly like mirage where you had to walk to get the extra expo, a easy expo in the lowground and you go in a circle and on a circle to battle the other players.

maybe we'll see an ErebosII with a dark templar on it
modified by Testbug
Lancet
I thought that that creep colony in the third expo did not favor zerg, that's is why I did not vote for erebos. Instead of a neutral DT remember that you can place a neutral spider mine. That one you can't make walk away!
testbug
yeah! you can't slide-push a spidermine! and when you have a photon cannon, just will be killed with one shot
flothefreak
but it accelerates zerg FE significantly
ProTosS4EveR
Is spider mine invisible when it is neutral?
Lancet
"Is spider mine invisible when it is neutral?"

They are visible for one or two seconds at the begining of the game and then they burrow and become invisible.

To use them go: "sprites>unit sprites>terran>special>vulture spider mine" with the players setting on 12 (neutral).
Excalibur
'Excalibur really thinks Corilith is better than Erebos..'
I never said that. Im saying nothing in the maplineup is something that really tickles my fancy, and so if every map you look at is nice but not gosu i dont see why your own wouldnt take the votes then.
lnept
wowww whoever voted for electioneering should kill themselves
testbug
then, place about 4 spidermines, so zerg has to manually kill all of them, or stack'em.

:)
ProTosS4EveR
WOOOOOO SPIDER MINES AREN'T SHOWN?? GREAT!!1!! ;DD
flothefreak
that would be sweet testbug :D
even if the cannon-kills-by-one thing doesnt work then. i will do that change i think.
Alter.Ego
Muck is definately my favourite, not only deco and eye candy wise, but it fits my playing (which sucks, I know.)

Mirage II definately deserves a motm spot and would've have it already if it wasn't and island map :)

Nuclear would've been my top choice if ptar didn't use that gay mineral formation :)
ptar
I will edit Nuclear. I wanna make an choke, remove the dropspots, will balance the geysers and maybe change the min formation. I'm just busy, cuz of school.
gigant
wow. I thought you cant vote your own map. haha. -.-
Excalibur
Hmm
This is probobly one of the first MOTMs ive witnessed were nothing is exactly jump-in-my-face-with-awe-and-awesome.

Muck is average IMO. It looks nice but i dont find it particularly wowing.
Mirage II is innovative and very nice as far as airmaps go, but it stops there.
Nuclear i see as a rather average though pretty map.
Obsession Shrine has the same opinion on it as i do for Shine: Average map. It looks nice but its not particularly wow.
Erebos, now theres a hard call to make. It looks gosu, but again, thats as an airmap. Now im not saying that airmaps are bad but they are markedly less popular and less played, i dont believe an airmap should get top MOTM. Just my opinion there.
Electioneering is the most AVERAGE map in this contest. I dont see why people are voting it so highly. Its not a bad map its just really nothing special.
Greed is so-so.
Scope is an acquired taste if that makes sense. I dont find it particularly amazing but its still a good map.
Street Spirit is, well i dont know what to call it, but i dont really fancy it.
Arches Of Char isnt getting its rightful attention IMO. Its a very nice and relatively innovative concept, and the deco is some of the nicest ive seen on ashworld. It deserves some votes and attention.
Amnesiac is so-so.
Nightmarjoo
For me, it's a toss-up between Mirage II and Erebos, with Starparty's Muck as my third choice. Personally I think Erebos has a better expo layout, but that Mirage II has a better concept. SP's Muck is interesting, but I'm not convinced of it having great gameplay, but it might. It is much better than the original Muck. I'm refraining on voting until I've either played the maps or until the vote is coming to an end and the crucial end votes are important :)
Lancet
"Arches Of Char isnt getting its rightful attention IMO. Its a very nice and relatively innovative concept, and the deco is some of the nicest ive seen on ashworld. It deserves some votes and attention."

Thanks Excalibur, people do not need to vote for my maps but I would be thrilled if they made their own maps employing the concept of the arch-generator-dweb. It really can affect gameplay in dramatic ways.
flothefreak
the concept of this setup is really cool. the rest of your map is just not good. that's it.
lancet
Sigh..........................

: ^ )
ProTosS4EveR
will saurus win teh motm??? :O
Nightmarjoo
are you kidding? There's still my votes, and my 4 fake accounts' votes rofl -_-
ProTosS4EveR
YEAH!!1!! KEKEKEKEEEE
Testbug
sorry but.
play mirageii...

now play erebos, and tell me it can be THE motm.

anyway, i'll give 5 point to my own map ;)
modified by Testbug
flothefreak
i dont really get the meaning out of this..
Testbug
compare mirageii to erebos, and tell me erebos it better.

(it's not)
Nightmarjoo
Good enough for me, I voted 5 for mirage and 3 to Muck, and none to Erebos (I only picked 2 choices).
flothefreak
with the update, i can finally also vote for mirage
Testbug
dark templars are now spider minessssss :D
stop being gosuu, i want my map to win T_T

i'll vote to obsession shrine :D
Starparty
tbh the reason i like muck is because of the size. Knowing that a normal macro fight might just end up in a dead fight, new strategies must be constructed which gives interesting games.
ProTosS4EveR
Omg, i will never win a motm :'(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
lnept
i voted for muck simply because I dont want to see mirage win, that setup has been done a million times before, most notably paradoxxx. paradoxxx for 4 players yay.
Testbug
ok i voted mirageii and you are winning again flo :)
ProTosS4EveR
OMG Erebos 26 Muck 26 Mirage II 27 WTF!!! :'((
flothefreak
lol lnept.
lnept
now i voted for erebos, OWNT
flothefreak
nah, not ownt. look up sworn's vote, someone who never gave ANY comment or map or whatever^^

so with his vote not counting it is 23 erebos, 24 mirage :p
Testbug
i really want erebos to win, the PICTURE looks like a MOTM XD

flo, mirageii ideas are great but the lowground is just boring :S

i tried to vote 1:miragii and 2:muck but erebos is still winning. so i'll vote for erebos because i like voting to the winning map :)
ProTosS4EveR
LOLOL I'M WINING!! Xddd
Nightmarjoo
Erebos and Mirage II need tested, badly =/
MirageII imo needs more work on its ground expo layout, but Erebos is like a super macro map, I dunno if it'll have decent gameplay at all.
Nightmarjoo
Well, Muck needs tested too :)
lnept
some1 test scope lens too k thx ownage map
Alter.Ego
where the hell all those votes for erebos came from?
ProTosS4EveR
IDK xD
There are no fake votes.

I will update Erebos soon because of the possibility to tank the 2nd min only expo in the center (top right and bottom left)
Testbug
what is alter.Ego talkin about? i don't see fake votes (the only voter i don't know is sworn)
Alter.Ego
I didn't say their fake, just .. out of nowhere ;P
ProTosS4EveR
LOL WHY THE VOTES CHANGE SO MUCH?? T_T
NastyMarine
Mirage already fucking won a title
Testbug
you feel better now ProTosS4EveR?
also tested Erebos and doesn't look like it can win a motm.

i wish obsession shrine had won :(
flothefreak
then make it erebos. it has a nice picture, and is a standard airmap beside this.
Testbug
mirage already won a map of the thing. what about replacing the old mirae with this new mirageii??? in the same map file.

and why did not you like obsession shrine? :(
lnept
give me a reason to play obsession shrine, getting tired of saying this. There's no reason why I would play your unknown obsession shrine when I can play already known maps that give the same standard gameplay. of a big center and set expos to each player.
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Alter.Ego voted (2)Muck as 1. choice
Alter.Ego voted (4)Mirage II as 2. choice
Alter.Ego voted (2)Nuclear as 3. choice
Alumni voted (4)Erebos as 1. choice
Alumni voted (4)Mirage II as 2. choice
Alumni voted (2)Muck as 3. choice
Crackling voted (4)Mirage II as 1. choice
Crackling voted (4)Corilith as 2. choice
Crackling voted (2)Amnesiac as 3. choice
EasYLosS voted (4)Electioneering as 2. choice
EasYLosS voted (2)Muck as 3. choice
Excalibur voted (2)Cadence 1.3 as 1. choice
Excalibur voted (4)Corilith as 2. choice
Excalibur voted (2)Nuclear as 3. choice
flothefreak voted (4)Mirage II as 1. choice
flothefreak voted (2)Scope Lens as 2. choice
flothefreak voted (2)Greed as 3. choice
gigant voted (2)Greed as 1. choice
gigant voted (2)Cadence 1.3 as 2. choice
gigant voted (4)Erebos as 3. choice
Lancet voted (4)Mirage II as 1. choice
Lancet voted (4)Electioneering as 2. choice
Lancet voted (4)Erebos as 3. choice
lnept voted (4)Erebos as 1. choice
lnept voted (2)Scope Lens as 2. choice
lnept voted (2)Muck as 3. choice
Moebius voted (4)Erebos as 1. choice
Moebius voted (2)Scope Lens as 2. choice
Moebius voted (2)Cadence 1.3 as 3. choice
Nightmarjoo voted (4)Mirage II as 1. choice
Nightmarjoo voted (2)Muck as 2. choice
ProTosS4EveR voted (4)Erebos as 1. choice
ProTosS4EveR voted (2)Amnesiac as 2. choice
ProTosS4EveR voted (2)Street Spirit as 3. choice
ptar voted (2)Nuclear as 1. choice
ptar voted (4)Erebos as 2. choice
SauruS voted (4)Electioneering as 1. choice
SauruS voted (2)Street Spirit as 3. choice
Starparty voted (2)Muck as 1. choice
Starparty voted (2)Scope Lens as 2. choice
Sworn. voted (2)Muck as 1. choice
Sworn. voted (4)Erebos as 2. choice
Sworn. voted (4)Mirage II as 3. choice
Testbug voted (4)Erebos as 2. choice
Testbug voted (4)Mirage II as 3. choice
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