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MOTM 01.08

deadline to enter maps: 2007, 01, 30 (Year, month, day)
Let's start off 2008 with a great first MOTM! Try to actually make maps this month, and maybe testbug won't win every single time!

NameAuthorDownloadvote(1., 2., 3. choice)
(2)ArcticptarMelee Obs Picture4
(4)The Great PhaseTuy (Pimped by Testbug)Melee Picture1
(2)Temple at GheliaLancetMelee Picture0
(4)Rise of TeotihuacanProTosS4EveRMelee Obs Picture25
(2)Till Death ComesmapONMelee Picture0
(2)LvhmapONMelee Picture0
(2)elduo(l)amageFateDMelee Picture5
(2)SegemaptarMelee Picture8
(4)OdysseyTestbug (Original idea: Crackling)Melee Obs Picture33
(4)MaelstromTestbug+Cracky xDMelee Picture0
(2)HillfireJustGuessMelee Obs Picture22
(4)Shrine of KelehmarLancetMelee Picture1
(2)Heroes_1.1flothefreakMelee Obs Picture9
The competition is closed!
Comments:

Nightmarjoo
Ok I'm asking panschk to setup an ip ban on anyone who submits Frosty Fortress. Flo, make a new map please!
LGI
Fuck off!
ProTosS4EveR
Change frosty a little, change it's name and submit it. :>
Lancet
Frosty is clearly an extreme case, it has already competed several times and been in the top 4 positions. It is also competing for (2)MOTY. When flo persisted in having it in MOTM-12 I requested that he at least upload some replays and he complied, so that was OK. But we can't keep having the same map over and over, this is beyond reasonable. Even though Flo is a fellow admin we have already bent over backwards for him beyond the breaking point. I agree with Nightmarjoo this time, please flo make a new map.

What do the rest of the admins think with regards to this? Nasty, testbug, templar etc?
modified by Lancet
ptar
Since when is templar and admin ?!?
Nightmarjoo
For a while so he could host that one competition. But he's not nosy like Lancet or compulsive like Nightmarjoo and then doesn't piss off anyone because he does very little (if anything) with his admin powa.
Lancet
Confusion? Really guys, come on, it's almost identical to Shakras wich is MOTM-12. It's time to move on.
PsychoTemplar
IMO, as long as he keeps trying to improve Frosty Fortress, I have no problem with it being resubmitted every competition. But I have to agree, that if he's not making any changes and it's lost this many times in a row, he ought to just let it be. If every mapper submits every map he's ever made every competition, just to see if it'll win, the competitions would be super cluttered. Although, to be fair we don't have any formal rule against this :P Maybe we should just vote on a new rule "Max number of resubmissions for MOTM is 3" or something.

"he does very little (if anything) with his admin powa."
I moderate flame wars when I see them, I upload pictures for people, I delete the occasional map (when it's really obviously stolen, or something else stupid) and other random things. I just don't make competitions very often.
modified by PsychoTemplar
Nightmarjoo
WOW, THANK YOU Templar for your first paragraph. That basically sums up my argument against Lancet. Maybe he'll listen if a non-Nightmarjoo person says it.

And at your second paragraph, I praise you for your excellent use of administrative powers.

(to be fair, you asked me to do it)
modified by PsychoTemplar
Nightmarjoo
haha
Lancet
WTF? Oracular just competed once for a MOTM and now it is in MOTY and I have edited it. What are you smoking?
Nightmarjoo
What are you talking about?
Lancet
Sigh..............I have not submited and resubmited Oracular to one competition after another. I submit my maps to MOTM ONCE and that's it except, of course, for the final MOTY where I just pick a few and submit them. I also made some edits before submiting it to EMOTY.

Please for our and everyone's sake, let's just drop this OK?

: ^ (
NastyMarine
I feel at this point, that frosty had its chance. The map has been in the hunt for motm way to long and quite frankly there are better maps. IF that wasnt the case, then it would have gotten motm already. I cant imagine any changes that would benefit it enough to win motm at this point. thats my opinion. IF it does stay then I really dont have any quarrel but it is pretty damn ridiculous that flo continues to submit it.
Lancet
We don't know if it was him who submitted it.
Nightmarjoo
I was talking about Frosty Fortress Lancet, you initially were on flo's side for keeping it is all.
Lancet
Not quite, I told him that he should include some replays to address the comment that it seemed unbalanced if he wanted to keep it and he did. It's moot however as we pretty much agree that it can't compete again.

Nuff said.

: ^ )
flothefreak
ehm guys...
i never added frosty fortress here.
Testbug
i know.
flo was absent all this time
Nightmarjoo
flo you had argued that because the map didn't "win" motm that it could be uploaded to every following motm until/unless it did ._.
flothefreak
which is correct as long as it's everytime very close to win.
FateD
guys... All this arguing is making me dizzy, lol

logically, shouldnt a Map of the MONTH be made or posted in the past month?
ProTosS4EveR
Already open??
Crackling
ptar voted (2)Segema as 1. choice
ptar voted (2)Arctic as 2. choice
ptar voted (4)Rise of Teotihuacan as 3. choice


haha :D:D:D
Crackling
some admin add my burning love :(
flothefreak
i puashed the deadline to 20th jan.
ptar
lol
Crackling
wow this gonna be a close thing, we have A LOT great maps... >.<

i dont even vote for MY map xD
modified by Crackling
ProTosS4EveR
hellfire??
Lancet
Not yet, still a lot of people that have not voted.
flothefreak
i like hillfire. i think justguess is a genius. must be, the map is awesome!
Nightmarjoo
hillfire has terrible mains
Nightmarjoo
yeeeeeeah I don't like any of the maps here. I'm gonna pretend this motm doesn't exist, not voting or posting.
Lancet
Rise of Teotihuacan should get more votes.
FateD
well, personnaly idk but i rather vote for maps that were actualy made in the month O_o
flothefreak
no.
Crackling
lol i think despite its look hillfire is a terrible unplayable map >.<
FateD
hmm i lost votes for elduo :( lol
Testbug
FateD you lost my vote because it0s fucking unplayable.

why don't you test your own map? did you tried downloading it? it can't be played even in ums.
FateD
zomg forgot a start loc... O_O lol
Fixed!!!! O_o lol man im so sry, i had the map "lastest version" and had tested it, but it wasnt the same as the site :( sry lol
modified by FateD
Lancet
Really? Only 8 people voted so far and two of the authors of maps here, ProTosS4EveR and mapON, have not even voted. Please give it a few more days.
Crackling
FOR THOSE WHO VOTE HILLFIRE PLAY A FUCKING GAME ON IT OR WATCH MY REP VS NITMARJU
modified by Crackling
ProTosS4EveR
LOL HOW THE FUCK RISE OF TEOTIHUACAN HAVE 22 POINTS?? ROFLCOPTER FIRING A LMAOPLANE
ProTosS4EveR
Crackling voted (4)Rise of Teotihuacan as 1. choice
Testbug voted (4)Rise of Teotihuacan as 1. choice

i'm fairplay

ProTosS4EveR voted (4)Odyssey as 1. choice
Crackling
: ^ )
Lancet
OK fellow admins, I think the time has come to make the newspost for this MOTM.

The way it looks now is:

1) Odyssey
2) Rise of Teotihuacan
3) Hillfire

Agreed? If so who will do it?
Nightmarjoo
You can do it, because the other admins don't post motm, and I'm not posting 3 shitty maps rofl
Lancet
OK, if everyone else agrees those maps will be the winners and I will make the post.
Johnny B.Goode
I really dont understand how you wanna play this map-Odyssey at all.Honestly,has anyone played this map before he voted for it?I dont think so!Or you have a weakness for scurrilities.The mains are uncontrolable long & large.They inviting to drop.Terran can control far to easy with his tanks not just his natural(s),the one from the other side too.Overall,exept the middle,the map is cramped as hell.Really,i see no chance to beat a terran on this map.Upload a rep and let us see how you win against a terran on this map.Surpise me!

Btw wasnt you 2,Crackling & Testbug who flamed alot against the map who won the Defenders of Gaia map contest? I think that map was not even half racialy imbalanced compared to your sweetie.
Testbug
Johnny B.Goode:
1.-Odyssey is not a 1v1 map.
2.- not only we flamed the map who won defenders of gaia, but the entire broodwarmap.net comnuty
3.- you should follow the map's historial and read what have all of us talk about, reading the posts and so.
4-. this is not a normal map, this is a special "shitty map" with large mains (not as large and tight as katrina's) and the drop play won't let terran to turtle

last time a 7players map won (wasn't suppose to be a 1v1 map) it's the same with this map, made for the 2v2 map competition (but some1 submited it to see if it can win a motm) rule of the 2v2 competition was to make a 2v2 map "not 1v1able"

being the mains so large doesn't helps terran.
the map you are talking about was a 2 players map

it is you no-information that made you write these incorerences, so i'll wait to you to modiphy your post (i won't edit it)

@Lancet:
can heroes got an honorable mention? i think it is the best map of the list :S
can crackling or nightmarjoo write why is heroes a bad map??
Crackling
Why "Heroes" is a bad map

1. The mains are wayyyyy to big, main-nat distance takes you 1,5worker building time to travel >.<
2. The mains ahve got 7 minerals with the most fucked up formation ever made
3.Workers at nat mine minerals from the minonly (concept not working)
4. minonly producing weird path issues
5. The map only promotes boring main-main fights
6. after botch palyers took their 3. gas expo (in the center) they are like by a too small piece of the map, if you arent careful your units will get shooted by tanks or sth >.<
7.the minonly at 12 is COMPLETLY useless, just a DAMN placefiller with no use... those path at 12 is also useless
8. the multi at 6 is also completly useless
Nightmarjoo
I already wrote why heroes is bad, look at its thread. Also, watch the rep between me and crackling.

Congrats at B- btw Crackling :D
flothefreak
heroes hasnt neither been tested by myself (except some basic CPU tests), nor have i even edited a bit. so dont make it motm. lateron maybe when it's improved.

oh, and crackling, shut up.
Crackling
uhm, why shall i shut up?

i played it and just listed the flaws >.<
i didnt try to make it worse tahn it is neither i was attacking you in any way
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alter.ego voted (2)Hillfire as 1. choice
alter.ego voted (2)Segema as 2. choice
alter.ego voted (2)elduo(l)amage as 3. choice
Crackling voted (4)Rise of Teotihuacan as 1. choice
Crackling voted (4)Odyssey as 2. choice
Crackling voted (2)elduo(l)amage as 3. choice
FateD voted (2)Hillfire as 1. choice
FateD voted (4)Odyssey as 2. choice
FateD voted (4)Shrine of Kelehmar as 3. choice
flothefreak voted (2)Hillfire as 1. choice
flothefreak voted (2)Heroes_1.1 as 2. choice
flothefreak voted (2)Arctic as 3. choice
Lancet voted (4)Rise of Teotihuacan as 1. choice
Lancet voted (2)Hillfire as 2. choice
Lancet voted (4)Odyssey as 3. choice
LostTampon voted (4)Rise of Teotihuacan as 1. choice
LostTampon voted (4)Odyssey as 2. choice
LostTampon voted (2)Hillfire as 3. choice
ludamad voted (4)Odyssey as 1. choice
ludamad voted (2)elduo(l)amage as 2. choice
ludamad voted (4)The Great Phase as 3. choice
NastyMarine voted (4)Odyssey as 1. choice
NastyMarine voted (2)Hillfire as 2. choice
NastyMarine voted (2)Heroes_1.1 as 3. choice
ProTosS4EveR voted (4)Odyssey as 1. choice
ProTosS4EveR voted (4)Rise of Teotihuacan as 2. choice
ProTosS4EveR voted (2)Heroes_1.1 as 3. choice
ptar voted (2)Segema as 1. choice
ptar voted (2)Arctic as 2. choice
ptar voted (4)Rise of Teotihuacan as 3. choice
RaDiX voted (4)Odyssey as 1. choice
RaDiX voted (2)Heroes_1.1 as 2. choice
RaDiX voted (4)Rise of Teotihuacan as 3. choice
Testbug voted (4)Rise of Teotihuacan as 1. choice
Testbug voted (4)Odyssey as 2. choice
Testbug voted (2)Heroes_1.1 as 3. choice
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